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Re: [PATCH 1/2] AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIRS: new macro, mostly for aclocal

From: Russ Allbery
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIRS: new macro, mostly for aclocal
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:35:44 -0700
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"Andrew W. Nosenko" <address@hidden> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Eric Blake <address@hidden> wrote:

>> Wrong.  For better or worse, Libtool has a goal of specifically being
>> usable even without autoconf or automake.

> Yes, but this goal is missed.  And missed very far and heavy.  At the
> current state, libtool is just a semi-portable automake plugin for
> generation of shared libraries.  May be I'm not too polite, but can
> you, or anyone else, point me to the even one real live non-died
> project, which uses libtool without automake?  (Before you ask: Yes,
> of course, Feel free to forward this message to libtool mailing list)

I know of at least two major open source projects that use Libtool without
Automake (INN and OpenAFS).  As the person who implemented the support for
INN, I can say that it wasn't even particularly hard, although some parts
were somewhat obscure.

I wouldn't actually recommend this approach, particularly if one were
starting from scratch, since Automake offers a lot of nice features and
automation for the integration.  But it's entirely possible and even
desirable if one is (such as is the case for OpenAFS) retrofitting shared
library support onto an old (20+ years in this case) code base with its
own extremely complex build system.

Russ Allbery (address@hidden)             <>

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