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Re: [PATCH 1/2] m4: warn when AM_SILENT_RULES default is used


From: Zack Weinberg
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] m4: warn when AM_SILENT_RULES default is used
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 09:48:25 -0500
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On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, at 1:09 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> To help ease people into enabling silent rules by default, warn if
> a package doesn't make an explicit selection.

-1 for the same reason that changing the default is a bad idea.

If we are to make *any* change in this area I would advocate instead for a step 
in the opposite direction:  remove the DEFAULT argument from AM_SILENT_RULES.  
The default is hardcoded to "no".  In other words, individual packages are no 
longer allowed to make the user-hostile decision of switching the default to 
"yes".

In addition to the ergonomics benefit, taking away that knob would smooth the 
path to having the AM_SILENT_RULES *feature* be enabled by default: that is, 
all automake-using packages get the --enable-silent-rules switch and the 
makefile machinery to back it up, without having to mention AM_SILENT_RULES in 
configure.ac.

zw



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