Re: silent-rules

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 10/14/2009 02:58 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
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> According to Ralf Corsepius on 10/13/2009 9:20 AM:
> > > > > What work does it cause except for using --disable-silent-rules at
> > > > > configure time or V=1 at make time?
> > > > Exactly this is the problem.
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> > > The problem isn't the support for silent rules.  The problem is that
> > > some packages are enabling it by default
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> But YOU can still disable it by default, by writing your packaging
> automation tools to supply --disable-silent-rules as part of calling
> ./configure, and/or writing an appropriate config.site.  In other words,
> the person running ./configure STILL has the option to choose YOUR desired
> default, even if it is different than the package author's desired
> default.

Exactly what I said in a previous mail: Automake is pushing around 
package maintainers to modify their packages to automake's behavioral 
changes. (Here package maintainer == Package installers)

> The use of silent-rules is an option, not a mandate.
IMO, upstream maintainers, who use silent rules, don't have much clues 
about what they are doing - Their practice is harmful.