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Re: Inconsistent output in terminal emulator


From: Chet Ramey
Subject: Re: Inconsistent output in terminal emulator
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:30:41 -0400
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Bob Proulx wrote:
> nico raffo wrote:
>> I'm writing a simple terminal emulator (on linux using standard pty
>> libraries) and have run across some behavior in bash that I cannot
>> explain after several weeks of reading documentation.
> 
> I am not sure of the exact cause of your trouble.  But having been a
> few days and no one else suggesting anything I thought I would jump in
> anyway.
> 
> Hopefully you will be using a free license on your code?  And then you
> could post it and perhaps someone might see something in it then.
> 
>> However with bash, the shell doesn't respond at all until a
>> <CR> is sent, and then bash only sends the output of the command, not
>> the command itself. If my terminal emulator is expecting the shell to
>> provide all display text, it wouldn't show the commands at all.
> 
> This seems like you are tripping into the difference between different
> tty driver settings of raw mode and canonical input mode (aka cooked
> mode).  

I think it's how the terminal emulator sets the ECHO flag in the
termios local status word (c_lflag & ECHO).  If that bit is set,
readline echoes the text it reads back to the terminal.  If it's
not, readline assumes that the terminal is in no-echo mode and that
it should not echo the characters.

I assume that the difference between bash and zsh is that zsh sets
the ECHO bit and leaves it set when it exits.  A subsequent invocation
of bash picks up that flag and echoes input as a result.

Chet
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