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Re: Wrong command option in the manual examples


From: Robert Elz
Subject: Re: Wrong command option in the manual examples
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 21:02:47 +0700

    Date:        Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:29:18 +0300
    From:        Ilkka Virta <itvirta@iki.fi>
    Message-ID:  <59cf49b0-1292-b752-4fe8-8928fd558ebf@iki.fi>

  | (as well the standard '-depth', somewhat confusingly)

There is no real standard for this - NetBSD has deprecated the -depth
operator (which never really was one) and replaced it by a -d option
which makes much more sense (-depth never really was the right way to
do it).  -depth (the old way) is still supported for compat with old
scripts, but is only mentioned in doc in the STANDARDS section, as:

     Historically, the -d, -h, and -x options were implemented using the
     primaries "-depth", "-follow", and "-xdev".  These primaries always
     evaluated to true, and always took effect when the expression was parsed,
     before the file system traversal began.  As a result, some legal
     expressions could be confusing.  For example, in the expression "-print
     -or -depth", -print always evaluates to true, so the standard meaning of
     -or implies that -depth would never be evaluated, but that is not what
     happens; in fact, -depth takes effect immediately, without testing
     whether -print returns true or false.

What I think is the purpose of poor choice of an option, the FreeBSD -depth N
is done using -maxdepth and -mindepth in combination (using the same value).

(That is, to select a depth of exactly N, one requests a depth of no less
than N and no more than N (where N, if signed, has the usual meaning, of
course).

Either way (as "-depth N", or "-mindepth N -maxdepth N") this is an operator
that applies to each path element encountered, so makes sense to have as
an element of the find expression (unlike the old -depth which does not.)

I'd strongly suggest not using examples of anything using "-depth" - choose
some other example instead.

kre





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