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Re: [PATCH] Prefer non-gender specific pronouns

From: Dima Pasechnik
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prefer non-gender specific pronouns
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 19:54:35 +0200

On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 06:12:07PM +0200, L??a Gris wrote:
> Le 07/06/2021 ?? 14:25, Dima Pasechnik ??crivait???:
> > > This forum is technical, not political!
> > 
> > Technical decisions might easily have political consequences, you cannot 
> > just separate these ones.
> You are turning it backward.
> This proposal is 100% political and 0% technical.

Is the current gender imbalance in IT and CS purely political?
It actually leads to technically biased AI solutions, as is well-documented,
so it is technical as well as political.
And, there are technical measures, long overdue, to improve it.
One of them is improving teaching materials and documentation,
as this is what we are after here.

> The current patches are nice. So I praise the very positive contributors
> implementing it with clever avoidance of cleaving cancel culture custom
> gender inclusive grammar. I would not have been that clever.

> I just let you know I have seen this live a year ago when cancel culture
> advocates infiltrated the board of the French non-profit ISP organization of
> which I am a member, and managed to get approval for an inclusive rewrite of
> the association's statutes, with a significant loss of legibility, and
> clearly for crassly political reasons.

Oh, so the statutes became non-offensive to ethnic minorites, how crass!
You might get ethnically diverse board members, oh no...
> This is the head reason I react so violently and remains very vigilant.

Did you also go out and demonstrate against abolition of the use of the 
"Mlle" in official French government documents back in 2012?
Did it lead to complete and utter collapse of the French society?
> This is what is happening here. Now they just ask for mundane changes and
> will probably accept the patch. They will come again and ask for inclusive
> grammar, then come again and ask for removal of anything that is even
> remotely related to slavery (Example: master-slave database replication),
> racial discrimination (please remove blacklist and replace by
> exclusion-list), sexual assault or anything even remotely related. They will

IMHO it's just lack of imagination on your side, lack of own experience?
(whereas I may refer to a childhood memory of me -- a gang of youth
screaming "Yiddish mug" and chasing me near my school back in Moscow, in so 
harmonic USSR  :-))

> not give-up until everything is expunged of every trace of anything until
> total destruction or what's left is a bland ghostwith nothing left of
> history and everyone has fought each-other.
> Then they will vanish and destroy other community, other history.
Bring back guillotine, it was such a great device, and so full of historical 
significance :-)

> -- 
> L??a Gris

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