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Re: Eclipse-compatible :extssh: method...

From: Deven T. Corzine
Subject: Re: Eclipse-compatible :extssh: method...
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 16:39:32 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 7 May 2003, Derek Robert Price wrote:

> Well, they probably should have talked to us.

No argument here.

> No, just most of them.  With really vital stuff I sometimes find the 
> time to code that sort of thing myself.

Why not do it for trivial stuff as well as vital stuff?  If you can do it 
in a couple minutes, it shouldn't be a big deal.  If you can't, then it's 
not trivial. :-)

> I really didn't mean to offend, it is simply that you are not the only 
> person with demands on your time.

I understand that, but I submitted the patch more for your benefit than for 
mine, and I just don't have the time at the moment to do much further with 
it.  Maybe if I can find some time later, I might clean it up for you, but 
there's no telling when (or if) I'll ever get around to that.  There's a 
very long list of such things I never get a chance to get back to...

> There are only a few active CVS developers and there are lots of 
> features people would like to see and lots of patch submissions.  I know 
> I usually don't have time to deal with all of them and, as you would 
> know if you had read the HACKING file, it is pretty near pointless and 
> generally self-defeating to commit new features to the tree without 
> documentation and regression tests.  The new features without tests and 
> docs usually quickly start developing bugs and fall into disuse.

Well, since the "extssh" method I implemented is nearly identical to the 
"ext" method, whatever documentation and regression tests that the "ext" 
method uses should be trivial to copy and modify for ths "extssh" method.

If I get a chance, I'll try to do that for you.

> I'm also very sorry to disappoint you.  We really do try our best to 
> satisfy the CVS user commmunity, but there are limits on our time.  If 
> you can't provide a complete patch, perhaps you would care to provide 
> funding?

Lovely idea, but I can't afford it.  I think there's a need for better 
mechanisms to fund open-source projects, but that's another discussion 
entirely.  (It's a topic I'm interested in, though -- if you're interested, 
maybe we can get into that discussion later.)

> If it is any consolation, I am working on a patch to simplify the 
> addition of tests and cvs.texinfo is fairly straightforward in the first 
> place.

If you point me to the exact location of the documentation and regression 
tests for the "ext" method, that might let me expand on that patch more 
easily.  Right now, I'd have to look for them.

> Again, sorry to disappoint.

It's not a huge deal to me either way, but I suspect I'm not the only one 
who was bitten by the incompatibility between Eclipse and standard CVS...


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