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Re: import inconsistency

From: Paul Edwards
Subject: Re: import inconsistency
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:32:41 GMT

"Pierre Asselin" <pa@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
> Paul Edwards <kerravon@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote:
> > "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu.cvs.bug/news/@flint.cs.yale.edu> wrote in 
> > message 5l65naffjy.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu">news:5l65naffjy.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu...
> >>
> >> Files in the Attic is a very common place situation: every time someone 
> >> adds
> >> a file to a branch before it's added to the trunk,
> > Very rare for a home user to do something like that.  You need
> > a big project to see something like that happening.
> This is from my home-user repository:
>     Script started on Fri Jun 13 19:57:56 2003
>     sh-2.04$ find /home/pa/cvsroot -name Attic | xargs ls
>     /home/pa/cvsroot/tests/Attic:
>     /home/pa/cvsroot/verano/tools/maillet/src/Attic:
>     check_order.sh,v    delta_slider.o,v  flvmesh.h,v  stripmesh.pl,v
>     delta_adjuster.o,v  flvmesh.cc,v      jrs.c,v
> And I'm not even trying.  My other home-user repository, which is
> maybe 4 years old, has 155 Attics scattered all over the place.
> They're quite common.

And how many of those files are active?  The files in my Attic
are active.

> > Once a file is removed, normally no-one cares about it.  It's
> > dead and forgotten.  In my case it is precious and remembered.
> No, files get created on branches all the time and need to be merged
> later.  Dead files get resurrected all the time, too.

And get moved out of the Attic.  Mine don't.

> > BTW, if these things were common, how come I was the first
> > to complain about cvs rdiff -s, first to complain about cvs diff
> > with two tags, first to complain about cvs diff not understanding
> > that dead means dead and no means no, first to complain that
> > branches interfere with normal import processing...  maybe the
> > underlying explanation is that I'm just a natural-born whinger
> > with too much time on his hands?  :-)
> You break any software you touch, that's what it is :-)

I certainly consider myself to be an ideal beta-tester anyway.
I reported something like 30 bugs in the Ada compiler we
were using at one site.  I've got no idea how everyone else
seemingly manages to cope.

Just the same as everyone else manages to find their way
around without a GPS.  Beats the hell out of me.

> Actually, the one thing you do that is very unusual is that you don't
> use a trunk.  The entire import functionality assume that there is, or
> going to be one.

Ok.  But surely other people should be in the same boat?  We
have multiple people working on multiple projects on multiple
releases.  What is the trunk actually supposed to mean?  Which
project would it be given to?  Sounds like a recipe for disaster,
people fighting for the head.  At the moment everyone is on
their own branch, and everyone is king of the branch and
seems to be happy.

BFN.  Paul.

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