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bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode |
Date: |
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:54:48 +0200 |
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: 2473@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
> xah@xahlee.org
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:34:21 -0500
>
> > I see a 3rd way: make the buffer present an expandable list of modes,
> > starting with just 2 items: the current major modes and "minor modes",
> > e.g. similar to what we do in Speedbar, or maybe in Outline Mode
> > (under "Hide Sublevels"). In ASCII art:
>
> > + Major Mode: RMAIL Mode
> > + Minor Modes
>
> > Using hiding is a good idea -- thanks.
>
> > I think that partcular way would be inconvenient. Specifically, it
> > would be a hassle to initially hide the major mode documentation.
> > That is what users most often want to see; making them type a command
> > to expose it would be a gratuitous hassle.
>
> > So I suggest putting the partly-hidden minor mode list first,
> > followed by the totally visible major mode documentation.
For the record: I don't mind whether the major mode is first or last,
nor whether it is Initially shown expanded or collapsed.
> I don't think the difference with what we have now is worth
> the trouble.
The difference is twofold, IMO:
. it presents a UI that's familiar to most users
. it makes it easy to show initially a very short text without
hampering user's ability to get to the information she needs most
If that's not worth the trouble, then what is?
(In case it wasn't clear, I wasn't suggesting that we make this change
before Emacs 23.1 is released.)
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, (continued)
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Stefan Monnier, 2009/02/26
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Richard M Stallman, 2009/02/27
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/02/27
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Richard M Stallman, 2009/02/27
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Lennart Borgman, 2009/02/27
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Drew Adams, 2009/02/27
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Stefan Monnier, 2009/02/27
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, xah lee, 2009/02/28
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#2473: usability issues on emacs's describe-mode, Lennart Borgman, 2009/02/28