bug#3873: marked as done (23.1.50; docstring of `region-active-p' is nonsensical)

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regarding 23.1.50; docstring of `region-active-p' is nonsensical
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> 23.1.50; docstring of `region-active-p' is nonsensical
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> Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:05:02 -0400
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> docstring of `region-active-p' is nonsensical.
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> "Most commands that act on the region if it is active and
> Transient Mark mode is enabled, and on the text near point
> otherwise, should use `use-region-p' instead.  That function
> checks the value of `use-empty-active-region' as well."
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> In particular, this clause;
> ", and on the text near point otherwise,"
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> I am a native english speaker and have _NO CLUE_ what this is trying to say.
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> While I am somewhat aware of the idiosyncrasies of transient mark,
> region, etc. and the baggage involved in this particular arena of
> documentation. There doesn't seem to be any good reason for this
> docstring to be quit so obtuse.
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> I believe this was touched upon (and/or skirted around) here:
> (URL `http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-05/msg00563.html')
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> Was there any resolution?
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> ;;; ==============================
> In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
>  of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)
> Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
> configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --cflags -Ic:/g/include'
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> Re: bug#3873: 23.1.50; docstring of `region-active-p' is nonsensical
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> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:40:53 -0400
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> > Commands which act on the region may require to test if it is active;
> > if Transient Mark mode is enabled; or if it is otherwise at the text
> > near point should use `use-region-p' instead.
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> I'm afraid this sentence is even more confusing.
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> I checked a different fix into CVS.
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