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bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:20:39 -0500 |
> From: Štěpán Němec <stepnem@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@gnu.org>, 2975@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:38:01 +0100
>
> On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:17:40 +0100
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> >> > Maybe the better course here is to deprecate it, seeing how noone seems
> >> > interested in fixing it (if it can be fixed).
> >
> > Define "fixed". Which of the current misfeatures are urgent to fix?
>
> I'd say the fact that OT1H `texinfo-master-menu' is recommended as "the
> primary command" in the Texinfo manual (info "(texinfo)Updating Commands"),
> and OTOH it (sometimes?) breaks things, is a rather urgent-to-be-fixed
> misfeature.
The simplest fix would be to remove the updating of the @node lines.
Would anyone object? Karl?
> I think it's very important that there is a clear recipe for maintaining
> Texinfo documentation which people not interested in the details or
> implementation of Texinfo (== the vast majority of Texinfo writers) can
> easily find and go by.
That is a separate and non-trivial project. Texinfo Mode has a lot of
commands, some of which cater to specific workflows and organizations
of manuals. Making a coherent set of instructions for people who are
"not interested in the details" is not an easy task. It certainly
doesn't affect only Emacs.
However, since this discussion _is_ in the context of Emacs, let me
say this: FWIW, most changes I do in the Emacs docs do not justify
using any of the commands discussed in this bug report and in the
parallel thread on emacs-devel. I just make the changes by hand. I
believe others do that as well. There are rare situations when I use
the commands discussed here, typically close to a release when there's
a need to make sure every menu is up to date. E.g., I didn't even
remember the existence of texinfo-multiple-files-update until I bumped
into a comment in emacs.texi, although I myself added that comment
several years ago.
I guess I'm saying that the importance of these commands in the
context of maintaining Emacs documentation is somewhat exaggerated in
this thread, to say the least ;-)
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Stefan Monnier, 2011/12/07
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Roland Winkler, 2011/12/07
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Roland Winkler, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Roland Winkler, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Štěpán Němec, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Štěpán Němec, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Roland Winkler, 2011/12/08
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/12/09
- bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi, Roland Winkler, 2011/12/09