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bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?
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Drew Adams |
Subject: |
bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer? |
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Mon, 4 May 2020 21:35:05 -0700 (PDT) |
> > Emacs 27 is unfortunately _totally_ unusable for me. Cannot do the
> > slightest thing.
>
> Please provide at least some examples of the difficulties. It's hard
> to say anything intelligent without that much.
I can't at this point. I simply can't use it at all.
It will take a very long time, I expect, to figure
anything out about it. I spent quite a while in the
Lisp debugger today, and didn't scratch the surface.
I don't have time for this now, I'm afraid. I'll
have to hope that others encounter problems that are
related and later I'll perhaps get a pretest candidate
that I can use to further find out what's wrong.
If no one else runs into related problems then I'll
have to get into it at some point, no doubt. But
I likely won't have the time to do that for quite
a while. I don't want this to be the end of my use
of Emacs (e.g. staying forever with 26.3), but that
might need to be the case.
> > I think that some of the problems come from the changes to minibuffer
> > and echo-area behavior.
I really don't know that, so ignore that thought.
I do want to undo such changes, but I don't have
a clue whether they might be causing deeper problems.
> > Regardless of whether that is the case, I want
> > to undo those changes. Is there an option for that? (I hope so.) If
> > not, what changes do I need to make from Lisp, to get back the prior
> > behavior?
>
> The NEWS mentions a few variables that should allow you to do that,
> but without knowing what you want to undo, it is hard to say more.
I didn't notice such variables. Anyway, I'll worry
about that later, and just assume for now that it's
not at the root of the bigger problems I have.
But yes, I don't want minibuffer-message replacing
messge whenever the minibuffer is active, etc. I
want the echo area as it was and minibuffer-message
and message as they were.
I realize that this bug report doesn't help anything
at this point. I guess the message for now is that
my Emacs is completely broken - can't even begin to
use it for anything. In particular, my *Completions*
buffer is shown in a separate frame, whose focus is
redirected to the minibuffer. That's essentially
broken now.
There seems to be some additional handle-switch-frame,
which breaks that relation somehow (?), so typing in
the minibuffer, and then hitting TAB, which pops up
the *Completions* frame, takes input focus away from
the minibuffer frame (and gives it to the *Completions*
frame, which is read-only).
My setup works with each Emacs release, from 20 to 26.
I know this is all very vague. Sorry.
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Drew Adams, 2020/05/04
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Noam Postavsky, 2020/05/05
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Drew Adams, 2020/05/05
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Juri Linkov, 2020/05/12
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Drew Adams, 2020/05/12
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Drew Adams, 2020/05/12
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/05/12
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Drew Adams, 2020/05/12
- bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer?, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/05/13