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bug#47711: bug#48841: bug#47711: [PATCH VERSION 2] Add new `completion-f


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: bug#47711: bug#48841: bug#47711: [PATCH VERSION 2] Add new `completion-filter-completions` API and deferred highlighting
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 14:22:04 +0300
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On 14.08.2021 10:12, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 05:47:43 +0300
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, 48841@debbugs.gnu.org,
  47711@debbugs.gnu.org

I thought I explained the problem with this previously.

It's basically this: we cannot mutate what we don't own. Across all of
completion functions out there, there will be such that return "shared"
strings (meaning, not copied or newly allocated) from their completion
tables. And modifying them is bad, with consequences which can present
themselves in unexpected, often subtle ways.

Since up until now completion-pcm--hilit-commonality copied all strings
before modifying, completion tables such as described (with "shared"
strings) have all been "legal". Suddenly deciding to stop supporting
them would be a major API breakage with consequences that are hard to
predict. And while I perhaps agree that it's an inconvenience, I don't
think it's a choice we can simply make as this stage in c-a-p-f's
development.

This sounds like an argument against Daniel's approach as well, no?
Because if a completion API returns strings it "doesn't own", there
will be restrictions on Lisp programs that use those strings, because
those Lisp programs previously could do anything they liked with those
strings, and now they cannot.  Or am I missing something?

Good question. It is not.

The completion tables described above have all been doing "legal" things, in our general understanding.

But any callers of completion-all-completions were never really allowed to modify the returned strings (those still were strings that code "doesn't own").

Of course, some of those callers (I don't know any, though) might have taken advantage of being able to modify the strings with impunity because of completion-all-completions' implementation detail, but they'll have a chance to clean up their act when switching to completion-filter-completions.

    1. (setq s (symbol-name 'car))

    2. (put-text-property 1 3 'face 'error s)

    3. Switch to a buffer in fundamental mode

    4. (insert (symbol-name 'car)) --> see the error face in the buffer

Now imagine that some completion table collects symbol names by passing
obarray through #'symbol-name rather than #'all-completions, and voila,
if the completion machinery adds properties (any properties, not just
face) to those strings, you have just modified a bunch of global values.
That's not good.

How is this different from Daniel's proposal of returning the original
strings?  AFAIU, he just shifts the responsibility from the completion
code to the caller of the completion code, but basically leaves the
problem still very much real and pretty much into our face.

This is a shift of responsibility in the right direction. The callers might as well do the string copying when needed, but the fact of the matter is, they usually only need to "copy" 20-100 strings (or however many is displayed), if they need to modify them at all. That's where we win: copying 100 strings is better than copying 10000.

Gotta run now, will reply to other email later.





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