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bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to
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martin rudalics |
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bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? |
Date: |
Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:34:34 +0200 |
> I am now not sure what you had in mind.
> However, we seem to have reached conflicting conclusions.
> You say that
>
> > Then it seems to say that setting one of these variable with setq (in
> > an init file?) is almost surely a bug.
>
> but everything else in this discussion seems to support the opposite
> conclusion: setting one of these variables with setq in an init file,
> in the usual simple case (you haven't loaded the definition yet), is
> perfectly ok.
Note that Gregory's patch addresses only a small subset of customizable
variables - those whose values should be assigned with a :set form.
Typical examples are timer based options like 'blink-cursor-delay' where
setting the variable requires to start or restart a timer or options
where you want to update things on all live frames or windows as with
'frame-background-mode'. With most of these options a simple 'setq'
would have none or at least not the desired visible effect.
martin
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- bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?,
martin rudalics <=
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- bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?, Richard Stallman, 2021/09/12
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- bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?, Richard Stallman, 2021/09/12
bug#21695: [External] : bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?, Drew Adams, 2021/09/02
bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?, Richard Stallman, 2021/09/03