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bug#50733: 28.0.1; project-find-regexp can block Emacs for a long time


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: bug#50733: 28.0.1; project-find-regexp can block Emacs for a long time
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:06:16 +0300

> Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es, 50733@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 15:22:39 +0300
> 
> On 24.09.2021 15:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > You don't need to convince me, I have all of those installed, and
> > couldn't do without them.  The difficulties are practical, not
> > principal.
> 
> Bundling extra tools affects the size of the distribution, for example. 
> I figured that's something you might have an opinion on.

I doubt that the size of the distribution matters much these days.
Especially since tools like Grep usually have very small sizes of the
binary distribution.

> >> What is the concern about the presence of the current maintainer? Would
> >> we do something different if he leaves? We'd probably need to find
> >> another maintainer, no?
> > 
> > Yes, and the question is: will we succeed, and how quickly?  We
> > already had a period of time without one, which means having no one is
> > not a theoretical danger.
> 
> I'm not sure how that affects our opinion on bundling, though.

It might mean that bundling won't happen for mundane reasons.

> > Just "gid -r <R>".  But if this could run in an arbitrary directory,
> > there should also be a "-f .../ID" argument, telling it where to find
> > the ID database (usually, in the project's root).
> 
> Anyway, it seems the most pressing problem is not the performance of the 
> external tool (ripgrep is quite fast, for example). But our 
> post-processing of the results, when there are a lot of them.

Yes.

> id-tools (or alternatives) could help avoid the "fetch all project 
> files" step, though. At the cost of extra manual management, which I 
> personally don't like much.

Why is that a problem?  We have midnight.el which could be part of the
solution.

> > Anyway, maybe we need a separate command, or a different (but similar)
> > tool, one that indexes the tokens in the project files instead of
> > scanning all of the files each time anew.
> 
> "Tokens" implies searching only for identifiers, no?

For ID Utils, yes (although in text files those are words).  For some
other similar tool it could be something else.





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