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bug#53188: 28.0.90; if tooltip-mode is off, modeline context menu blocks


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: bug#53188: 28.0.90; if tooltip-mode is off, modeline context menu blocks minibuffer at column 36
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:38:10 +0200

> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:16:36 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Van Ly <van.ly@sdf.org>
> cc: 53188@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> Maybe tooltip-mode should be silent in the echo-area once nil is set.
> >
> > I don't think I follow: do you mean that we should suppress _all_
> > help-echo text when tooltip-mode is nil?  That'd be too drastic, I
> > think, and unjustified.
> >
> 
> The text associated with the tooltip is helpful early on but becomes 
> an annoying visual nag once you are familiar with what that thing 
> does.  I had tooltip-mode set nil.  I didn't expect the echo area to 
> contain the tooltip.  There was text in the echo area and I couldn't 
> get the modeline context menu out of the way to read it.  When I 
> restarted in 'emacs -Q' to report the bug I discovered the echo area 
> partially contained the tooltip text because tooltip-mode is default 
> on.  My point is if there is text I want, I want to be able to read 
> all of it.  If I've set tooltip-mode nil then I expect tooltip text 
> masked out from every output channel.

So you are actually asking for a new feature, whereby the tooltips are
not shown at all, is that right?





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