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bug#53305: 29.0.50; Echo keystrokes without delay


From: Rudolf Adamkovič
Subject: bug#53305: 29.0.50; Echo keystrokes without delay
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:19:02 +0100

Today, I set my Emacs to echo unfinished commands without a delay:

(setq-default echo-keystrokes 1e-6)

I experienced some problems along the way: (1) The variable name does
not include the word "delay", making it hard to find; (2) I could not
figure out how to disable the delay without providing a number of
seconds; (3) When I press C-x C-g repeatedly, the C-x part flashes a
bit.

Does (3) have anything to do with the "1e-6" hack?  Ideally, I would
want Emacs to have no delay and also no "redraw glitches".

I also wonder, does Emacs have the default 1-second delay to save
bandwidth or something like that?  I ask because the default makes it
harder to learn Emacs for inexperienced computer users.  I base my claim
on causal observations of my children; they often wait for the echo
area, unsure about their "unfinished commands".

Note: If the Emacs core team considers all of the above "features" and
not "bugs", feel free to close this bug report.

Rudy


In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 10, x86_64-apple-darwin21.2.0, NS appkit-2113.20 
Version 12.1 (Build 21C52))
 of 2022-01-11 built on Workstation.local
Repository revision: 18dac472553e6cd1102b644c2175012e12215c18
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Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113
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-- 
"Programming reliably --- must be an activity of an undeniably mathematical 
nature […] You see, mathematics is about thinking, and doing mathematics is 
always trying to think as well as possible." -- Edsger W. Dijkstra (1981)

Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> [he/him]
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia





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