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bug#54537: Re: bug#54537: 29.0.50; Last sexp notion is different for eva


From: Michael Heerdegen
Subject: bug#54537: Re: bug#54537: 29.0.50; Last sexp notion is different for eval-last-sexp and pp-eval-last-sexp
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 03:22:04 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> Still calls out for a better argument than a vague
> opinion that such a change adding incompatibility
> would be "more convenient".  That's all.

Ok - let's become concrete now.

About what kinds of use cases are we a talking about?  Use cases like
this:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
`(,(+ 2 3)
  ,(+ 4 5))
#+end_src

The non-pp behavior is useful (you are able to eval the inserted
subexpressions).  The pp behavior is not useful (error).

This behaves identically in both versions:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
',(+ 4 5)
#+end_src

(you get the expected `,(+ 4 5)`.)

So we only talk about plain naked `unquote` expressions.

Do you see any concrete advantages of the pp-version behavior?  Or some
concrete hints that the pp version must be like this for more
consistency in the pp package?

OTOH, a concrete problem I see is that people avoid pp due to such things.
As far as I recall the history of the pp package, I don't expect much
logic behind the behavior.  Maybe it really just...sucks?

Michael.





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