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bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil.
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil. |
Date: |
Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:59:45 +0200 |
> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:21:27 +0000
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 67196@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
>
> > So you kicked the can a bit further down the road.
> > The next bug report will be that `M-: debug-from--eval-expression` does
> > not return the expected value.
>
> Not at all. debug-from--eval-expression is a purely internal variable,
> unlike debug-on-error which is intended for user use. It is bound in
> exactly one place, and tested in exactly one place.
>
> Anybody reporting such a "bug" would legitimately get the reply "not a
> bug".
How about not exposing the internal variable to Lisp at all?
> For what it's worth, I lost about 10 hours of time trying to debug
> a situation where I wasn't getting a backtrace, despite debug-on-error
> being t. The problem was that d-o-e wasn't t at all, it was nil. M-:
> had been lying.
You never described that situation, AFAICT. I think you should, so
that we could assess how grave the problem is, which is an important
part of deciding whether the solution you propose is useful. I don't
understand how could you NOT get a backtrace when debug-on-error is
non-nil.
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., (continued)
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/15
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/24
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/24
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/24
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Stefan Monnier, 2023/11/24
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/24
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil.,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/25
- bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil., Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/25