RE: [Bug-gnubg] Re: Long GNU rollout results

[Albert Silver]

They did lose a key programmer, André Nicoulin, though I have no idea as
to the reason. Yes, it is incomprehensible that there is no checker play
according to score in rollouts. 

                                                Albert

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Neil
Kaz
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Albert Silver; 'Joern Thyssen'
Cc: 'Øystein Johansen'; 'GnuBg Bug (E-mail)'
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: Long GNU rollout results

This is absolutely amazing for Snowie 4. The program evaluates positions
according to match score processing its cubeful evaluations of cubeless
money percentages according to match score. ..ie its evaluation of
positions
performs all the necessary steps (acording to score) to perform rollouts
according to score and yet, the option isn't available !!

Why ?  Perhaps it is bcuz the developers felt SW 4 was allready too
slow,
like most users do. Or perhaps it was bcuz they couldn't or were
unwilling
to figure out how to make it work perfectly ?

Snowie 4 is so much slower than Snowie 3, and the UI is worse. This
makes me
wonder if their development team lost a key programmer.

However, Snowie 4 is very strong in key simple backgame positions. I
have
some work to do to evaluate the new GNU build in these positions.

..neilkaz..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Silver" <address@hidden>
To: "'Joern Thyssen'" <address@hidden>; "'Neil Kaz'"
<address@hidden>
Cc: "'Øystein Johansen'" <address@hidden>; "'GnuBg Bug (E-mail)'"
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Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: [Bug-gnubg] Re: Long GNU rollout results


It gets better. The new Snowie 4 is *incapable* of playing according to
score in rollouts. It's not even an option anymore.

Albert

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
Joern Thyssen
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:28 PM
To: Neil Kaz
Cc: Øystein Johansen; GnuBg Bug (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: Long GNU rollout results

On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 05:21:28PM +0000, Joern Thyssen wrote
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:40:36AM -0600, Neil Kaz wrote
> > Thx everyone..I want to perfectly understand what GNU is doing in
rollouts
> > and how/why it is presenting the data like this. I hope to be 100%
certain
> > that GNU is doing everything like it is supposed. ..ie perfectly
evaluating
> > the plays and cubes according to match score.
>
> gnubg always evaluate plays and cube according the current score and
> cube in rollouts.

BTW, I wonder why Snowie has the "chequer play according to
score"-option. Why would you ever want to do a rollout not according to
score? Is this just a quick way to set up a money rollout???

Jørn


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