RE: [Bug-gnubg] Re: Cubeless Rollout Bug In New Build (Now fixed! )

[Moore, Dave]

I'm a huge GnuBG fan.  It was just a not-so-profound thought that occured to
me when I was thinking about the results.  I'm still a relative novice,
especially on this list.  What might have seemed like "baiting" really
wasn't.  I was just wrong.

Sorry if I offended anybody.  

Regards,
Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heled [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:53 PM
Cc: Moore, Dave; gnubg
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: Cubeless Rollout Bug In New Build (Now
fixed! )



And one more thing. Would you be thinking the same about Snowie if it 
turned out that SN rollouts were better? :)

-Joseph

Joseph Heled wrote:
> 
> 
> Moore, Dave wrote:
> 
>> This is a pretty promising result!  Just to play Devil's advocate, 
>> though, isn't it possible that this shows that GnuBG is perhaps worse 
>> at defending against a backgame while being equally good at playing a 
>> backgame?
>>  
> 
> Neil choose this position because he thinks it represents a skill test 
> for the backgame player only. I think this is mostly true. Some of us 
> have looked at games played and I think no one saw big errors on the 
> trapped side.
> 
> Only a "multi bot" rollout will settle the issue, but it is a long time 
> until SN becomes open source :)
> 
> -Joseph
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>  
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     *From:* address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden
>>     *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2003 9:23 AM
>>     *To:* address@hidden
>>     *Subject:* [Bug-gnubg] Re: Cubeless Rollout Bug In New Build (Now
>>     fixed!)
>>
>>     Hi
>>     Just downloaded the new build from Nardy's site and checked the
>>     backgame position I sent you  (137.sgf) that I was testing all the
>>     bots with.
>>     Here are the results at 0-ply. (32000 trials) Hey GNU is strongest!!
>>
>>     JF       0-Ply  -0.672 40.2/0.9/0.0---59.8/35.0/13.6
>>     SW3.2 0-Ply       -0.669 40.4/1.0/0.0---59.6/35.7/13.0
>>     SW4 0-Ply       -0.636 42.1/1.0/0.0---57.9/35.7/13.1
>>     GNU       0-Ply  -0.582 43.5/0.9/0.0---56.4/34.7/11.5
>>
>>     I'm testing this position at higher plies now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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