Re: [Bug-gnubg] GnuBG is playing strangely and checkers will not move properly when clicked

[Myshkin LeVine]

Hi Michael & Ian,
		 Yes the "Show higher die on left" box is checked in the Dice tab  
of the options panel. I also thought maybe my weights file was  
missing or corrupt but the Help-->About-->Evaluation_Engine lists all  
the nets as "version 0.15". I use the pre-defined setting of World  
Class for everything, analysis, evaluation, and the player setting of  
GnuBG. I verified that all settings were correct. No this is not a  
Windows build. I am using a Macintosh Powerbook G4 and my build setup  
has not changed recently and I am using the same optimization  
settings that I have always used.
		 I keep a copy of the gnubg module on my desktop and frequently  
update it using the built-in CVS control of BBEdit. I did recently  
upgrade BBEdit but I don't know how that could have corrupted any  
files. I will pull a new copy of the gnubg module using my command  
line CVS client and re-build GnuBG and let you know how that goes.
                        Take care,
                                  Myshkin



On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:49 AM, Michael Petch wrote:

> On 15/06/09 1:52 AM, "Myshkin LeVine" <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > Hello Developers,
> > I just built gnubg from CVS as of June 15, 2009 05:07 GMT and the
> > program is behaving rather strangely. It is playing poorly, and
> > making tutor recommendations which are clearly wrong.
>
> I just pulled latest CVS, built on my MAC. Made sure evals were set  
> to 2
> ply/2ply (even tried 0ply/0ply) and started money sessions with  
> Tutor mode
> on and Manual dice.
>
> It believes that the normal 8/3 6/3 play is correct (even on 0  
> ply). I also
> don't experience the problem
>
> Is it possible your weights file is corrupt? Is it possible there is a
> problem with the Settings/Evaluations (Make sure the plies are  
> correct and
> there is no noise)?? (Can you verify)
>
> I tried the test with high die on right, and clicked on the top 8pt  
> and it
> moved correctly to the 3pt. Which is what you'd expect. This is  
> likely do to
> an option that is wrong. Go to Settings/Options..., click the  
> "Dice" tab. I
> am betting that you hav no checkmark in "Show higher die on left".  
> If not,
> check it and then try your test again. If I remove the checkmark I  
> see the
> behavior you describe.
>
> Is this a windows build you built?


> On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Ian Shaw wrote:
> > Gnubg always plays the left die first by default. Have you checked  
> > the
> > option to show the higher die on the left? Check
> > Settings...Options...Dice...Show high die on left.
> >
> > (To developers: I suggest that this setting be hard-coded and removed
> > from the interface. Does it help anybody to have the alternatives
> > available?)
> >
> > What weights file are you using?  It sounds like you might have an  
> > out
> > of date weights file, or it may even be missing altogether. Check
> > Help...About...Evaluation Engine. The weights file should be 0.15.