Re: Bugs with Gorm

[Germán Arias]

Hi

El mié, 18-02-2015 a las 13:08 -0500, M A escribió:
> I was trying to do this tutorial: 
> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/PierresDevTutorial/index.html
> 
> Ran into a problem with Gorm. The text in the outlets keeps reappearing.  
> Steps to reproduce: 
> Open Gorm.
> Go to Class Edit Inspector.
> Push add button to add new outlets.
> Click one to edit its name.
> Push and hold down the delete button to delete all the text. 
> What should happen is all the text should be deleted.
> What really happens is the text is deleted, then reappears over and over 
> again.

If you want remove an outlet just select it and click the "Remove"
button. You can change the outlet name, but you cannot left it without a
name.

> 
> 
> I also see this shortcut menu that appears when I select my .gorm file in 
> ProjectCenter. It has these items on it:
> 
> Info
> Windows
> Services
> Hide
> Quit
> 
> Cannot make it go away. Oddly I can edit the text in this shortcut menu. I 
> was right clicking on one of the files in the Interfaces area in 
> ProjectCenter. That is when I noticed the shortcut menu.

I suppose you are using the WinUXTheme theme (Windows look & feel). That
menu is the default main menu of your app. Remember GNUstep is based in
OpenStep specification, where the vertical menu is the rule. Gorm use
this style when you edit your gorm file, but at runtime this is
re-arranged and used as an in-window menu. All the single items (without
submenu) plus Info, Services and Windows items, are placed in a new item
with the name of the app. Like the "Gorm" item at Gorm itself.

You can remove one item just selecting this and then selecting
"Edit->Delete" at Gorm menu. 

> 
> My System:
> Windows XP Service Pack 3. 
> ProjectCenter 0.6.1
> Gorm 1.2.18
> 
> I really wish I could give GNUStep a good review, but until the many problems 
> with it are fixed, I cannot do so.
> _______________________________________________

Be aware that you can't build your projects with ProjectCenter, you will
need build this from GNUstep shell. Also keep in mind that the internal
editor of ProjectCenter is slow.

My recommendations for a best experience on Windows:

Use an editor like Emacs instead ProjectCenter. ProjectCenter works fine
on Gnu/Linux or BSD but have problems on Windows. The latest version of
emacs is available for mingw, so you only need unpack this in your
GNUstep directory and make a entry in your start menu or launch it from
the gnustep shell. 

Also, for a better experience you can install gs-emacs. Download it:

svn co http://svn.gna.org/avn/gnustep/plugins/gs-emacs/

and then load this at your .emacs file. Open emacs and type "Control-x"
and then "Control-f" now write "~/.emacs" and hit return. This will
create your .emacs file, Now write in that file:

(load-file "/xxxxx/gs-emacs/gnustep.el")

Where xxxxx is the path to the gs-emacs package. Save the file and then
restart emacs, you will see a new menu entry called GNUstep. See:

https://gnutopics.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/gs-emacs-0-1/

for more info. But use the svn version, not the package in that post.

Some time ago I wrote an small document about first steps with GNUstep
on Windows. But is in Spanish, maybe is time to make this available on
English.

Regards.
Germán.