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Re: Grub splashimage (yes me again)


From: Simon Woodward
Subject: Re: Grub splashimage (yes me again)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:25:57 -0500

Whoa, whoa, hang on.  I think we can at least remain civil to each other
here, no?

Wanting your software to look nice is no more childish than wanting your
house to look nice.  If you use it a lot, why shouldn't it be pleasing to
the eye?  And if it costs nothing, again, why not?  A splash screen gives a
boot loader a much more modern appearance and feel.

As for these demigod like boot loader users that you refer to, no.  Many
many people want to dual boot their pcs - I recently started using only
Linux on my home PC for everyday stuff, but I like my games, and so I need
windows too.  Many people who use Linux also need to use Windows
occasionally.  Even if you don't use windows at all, you don't need to be a
power user to want to use a boot loader - if you're experimenting with
recompiling the kernel (as most do, every now and then for drivers etc.) you
definitely want to choose between your new and old kernels.

So normal users do see boot loaders, and normal users do indeed have a use
for them.  And normal people have a sense of aesthetic appreciation - if you
can increase the look of your whole product ten fold with a feature that you
got for free, and if you sincerely want the use and useability of your
product to increase, you should jump at the chance to do it.

Feature freeze?  Fine.  Agreed.  We can wait until the next release.  But
lets at least be polite about it...

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Cc: <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>;
<address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Grub splashimage (yes me again)


> At Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:29:47 +0100 (CET),
> Dr. Tilmann Bubeck <address@hidden> wrote:
> > This is very sad. I think that technical details of a software are very
> > important (and GRUB is "best-of-class"). However, the usability of a
> > software is also very important (maybe even more important).
>
> I quite agree to that.
>
> > Background
> > images and such "eye candies" is important for normal users so that it
> > looks good and feels comfortable..
>
> I completely disagree about that. I know how many people delight in
> eye candies like children, but why such users need to tackle on boot
> loaders? Normal users don't see boot loaders, because their favorite
> operating system starts up with no interaction really soon. If they
> need to recognize their boot loaders, they are not normal (like you
> and me).
>
> > I would very much like to see e.g. background images and "ls" or many
more
> > usability improvements. And last but not least: why not?
>
> I've answered that kind of question zillion times. Why don't you
> understand what feature-freeze means?
>
> Okuji
>
>
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