I always wondered what
happen to the Hare Krishna's. It was such a nice movement in the late 60's and
70's based on pure religious principles and deep philosophy but became corrupt
after the leader (Prabhupada) passed away. I recently found an article on the
net which claims Prabhupada was tortured and poisoned by some of his so called
followers. So it seems that the child abuse and other scandals were not
connected to Prabhupada and the genuine movement but to these criminals. I have
added a bit of the article below, if you want to read all of it go to the links,
there are also some nice words from George Harrison about his feelings for
Prabhupada and the teachings of the movement.
I'm interested to hear
your views.
THE HARE
KRISHNA SAINT
TORTURED AND
POISONED "TO DEATH"
BY HIS JUDAS
DISCIPLES (Leaders of a Sinister Movement)
“And Lord Jesus Christ
was killed. So they may kill me also.” [Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation May 3, 1976,
Honolulu]
"Someone has poisoned
me" [Srila
Prabhupada, Room Conversation November 10, 1977, Vrndavana,
India]
His
Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the world-famous saint,
cultural ambassador, scholar, social reformer and founder of the International
Society for Krishna Consciousness, (I.S.K.CON), warned in a letter dated
September 1970 that “the great sinister movement is within our Society.” In 1977
he was held in a small room and slowly tortured and poisoned “to death” by the
leaders of this sinister movement, as the tape transcriptions in this document
conclusively prove.
Srila
Prabhupada continued translating his transcendental books up to the point of his
death. Although he was personally being disturbed by these demons, still, he was
merciful to the general people, who are suffering for want of Krishna
consciousness. Even up to the point of death, Srila Prabhupada was trying to
preach Krishna consciousness. In fact his only concern was that all the people
of this planet should receive the highest perfection of life namely Love of
Krishna (God). So Srila Prabhupada truly manifested the symptoms of a Saint on
the topmost level of self realization. On one side he was tolerant of his own
sufferings and on the other side he was merciful.
After Srila Prabhupadas physical
departure these Judas disciples immediately took complete control of I.S.K.CON,
its wealth and resources, which were intended for spreading love of Krishna.
Whilst falsely declaring themselves Srila Prabhupadas successors, they and their
followers performed countless atrocious acts, including child molestation. Those
who stood against them were forced out or even murdered.
This sinister movement masquerading
as I.S.K.CON are now threatened to be sued for $400,000,000 by some of their
victims, who were subjected to child abuse whilst at schools originally set up
by Srila Prabhupada to teach the children the message of pure love of God, as
proclaimed in the Vedic scriptures. Evidence used in the court case is being
distorted to divert the blame on to Srila Prabhupada both by the criminals (to
avoid justice) and by the victims lawyers (to gain the greatest financial
rewards)
We
have compiled this pamphlet in order to protect Srila Prabhupadas spotless
character and to make it clear to the public, that this cult is not the pure
Hare Krishna movement founded by him, but rather a group of envious impostors in
the dress of devotees. These impostors have completely neglected Srila
Prabhupadas guidance on every level, particularly in regards to protecting
children.
If you
are interested in learning more about these issues and the genuine Hare Krishna
movement then you are welcome to contact us at:
address@hidden
We are fighting to keep the Hare Krishna movement going on with Srila
Prabhupada in the centre. We are printing his original transcendental books
which are now being changed by the members of this cult, against Srila
Prabhupadas order.
Every
Sunday we are holding a festival of chanting and dancing and serve out a free
sumptuous vegetarian feast. There is also a lecture given by His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada on the science of self realisation and
Bhakti Yoga, followed by a philosophical discussion. You are welcome to come
along with your friends and experience the transcendental festival. HARE KRISHNA
!
You can find the article
on the following link: Click here
These children are the future hope
of our Society
Now I am concerned that the Gurukula
[KrishnaSchool] experiment should come out nicely. These children are the
future hope of our Society, so it is a very important matter how we are training
them in Krishna consciousness from the very childhood. [Srila rabhupada Letter to: Satsvarupa, New
York 11 April, 1973]
Gurukula is our most important project.
If the children are given a Krsna Conscious education from early childhood then
there is great hope for the future of the world. [Srila Prabhupada Letter to: Dayananda,
Nandarani Calcutta 27 January, 1973]
If we want them to become great
devotees, then we must
educate the children with love, not
in a negative way.
Regarding your question should force be
used on children, no, there shall be no forcing the children to do anything.
Child should not be forced. This is all nonsense. Who has devised these things?
If we want them to become great devotees, then we must educate the children with
love, not in a negative way. Of course, if they become naughty we may show the
stick but we should never use it. Child is nonsense, so you can trick him to
obey you by making some little story and the child will become cheated in the
proper behavior. But never apply force, especially to his chanting and other
matters of spiritual training. That will spoil him and in the future he will not
like to do it if he forced. [Srila
Prabhupada Letter to: Brahmanya Tirtha Ahmedabad 10 December
1972]
======================
GEORGE HARRISON (EX
BEATLE) SPEAKS ABOUT
THE HARE KRISHNA
SAINT. (PRABHUPADA)
HE WAS MUCH MORE INCREDIBLE THAN YOU
COULD SEE ON THE SURFACE
Mukunda: George, you and John Lennon met Srila Prabhupada
together when he stayed at John's home, in September of
1969.
George: Yes, but when I met him at first, I
underestimated him. I didn't realize it then, but I see now that because of him,
the mantra has spread so
far in the last sixteen years, more than it had in the last five centuries. Now
that's pretty amazing, because he was getting older and older, yet he was
writing his books all the time. I realized later on that he was much more
incredible than what you could see on the
surface.
I LIKED PRABHUPADA'S HUMBLENESS. I
ALWAYS LIKED HIS HUMILITY AND HIS SIMPLICITY
Mukunda: What about him stands out the most in your
mind?
George: The thing that always stays is his saying, "I am
the servant of the servant of the servant." I like that. A lot of people say,
"I'm it. I'm the divine incarnation. I'm here and let me hip you." You know what
I mean? But Prabhupada was never like that. I liked Prabhupada's humbleness. I
always liked his humility and his simplicity The servant of the servant of the
servant is really what it is, you know. None of us are God--just His
servants. He just made me feel so comfortable. I always felt very relaxed with
him, and I felt more like a friend. I felt that he was a good friend. Even
though he was at the time seventy-nine years old, working practically all
through the night, day after day, with very little sleep, he still didn't come
through to me as though he was a very highly educated intellectual being,
because he had a sort of childlike simplicity. Which is great, fantastic. Even
though he was the greatest Sanskrit scholar and a saint, I appreciated the fact
that he never made me feel uncomfortable. In fact, he always went out of his way
to make me feel comfortable. I always thought of him as sort of a lovely friend,
really, and now he's still a lovely
friend.
Mukunda: In one of his books, Prabhupada said that your
sincere service was better than some people who had delved more deeply into
Krishna consciousness but could not maintain that level of commitment. How did
you feel about this?
George: Very wonderful, really. I mean it really gave me
hope, because as they say, even one moment in the company of a divine person,
Krishna's pure devotee, can help a tremendous amount. And I think Prabhupada was
really pleased at the idea that somebody from outside of the temple was helping
to get the album made. Just the fact that he was pleased was encouraging to me.
I knew he liked "The Hare Krishna Mantra" record, and he asked the devotees to
play that song "Govinda." They still play it, don't
they?
HE WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF
EVERYTHING HE
PREACHED
Mukunda: Every temple has a recording of it, and we play
it each morning when the devotees assemble before the altar, before kirtana. It's an ISKCON institution, you might
say.
George: And if I didn't get feedback from Prabhupada on
my songs about Krishna or the philosophy, I'd get it from the devotees. That's
all the encouragement I needed really. It just seemed that anything spiritual I
did, either through songs, or helping with publishing the books, or whatever,
really pleased him. The song I wrote, "Living in the Material World," as I wrote
in I, Me, Mine,
was influenced by Srila
Prabhupada. He's the one who explained to me how we're not these physical
bodies. We just happen to be in them. Like I said in the song, this place's not
really what's happening. We don't belong here, but in the spiritual sky:
As l'm fated for the
material world, Get frustrated in the material world, Senses never gratified,
Only swelling like a tide, That could drown me in the material
world. The whole point to being
here, really, is to figure a way to get out. That was the thing about
Prabhupada, you see. He didn't just talk about loving Krishna and getting out of
this place, but he was the perfect example. He talked about always chanting, and
he was always chanting. I think that that in itself was perhaps the most
encouraging thing for me. It was enough to make me try harder, to be just a
little bit better. He was a perfect example of everything he
preached.
THE AMOUNT OF LITERATURE PRABHUPADA
PRODUCED IS TRULY AMAZING. IT BOGGLES THE MIND.
Mukunda: How would you describe Srila Prabhupada's
achievements?
George: I think Prabhupada's accomplishments are very
significant; they're huge. Even compared to someone like William Shakespeare,
the amount of literature Prabhupada produced is truly amazing. It boggles the
mind. He sometimes went for days with only a few hours sleep. I mean even a
youthful, athletic young person couldn't keep the pace he kept himself at
seventy-nine years of age.
ONE DAY I JUST REALIZED, “GOD THIS
MAN IS AMAZING!”
George: Srila Prabhupada has already had an amazing
effect on the world. There's no way of measuring it. One day I just realized,
"God, this man is amazing!" He would sit up all night translating Sanskrit into
English, putting in glossaries to make sure everyone understands it, and yet he
never came off as someone above you. He always had that childlike simplicity,
and what's most amazing is the fact that he did all this translating in such a
relatively short time--just a few years. And without having anything more than
his own Krishna consciousness, he rounded up all these thousands of devotees,
set the whole movement in motion, which became something so strong that it went
on even after he left. And it's still escalating even now at an incredible rate.
It will go on and on from the knowledge he gave. [Edititors note: Srila
Prabhupada: “Even if they stop (the movement) externally, internally it will go
on.”] It can only grow and grow.
The more people wake up spiritually, the more they'll begin to realize the depth
of what Prabhupada was saying--how much he gave.
HIS CONTRIBUTION HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN
ENORMOUS FROM THE LITERARY POINT OF VIEW
Mukunda: Did you know that complete sets of Prabhupada's
books are in all the major colleges and universities in the world, including
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge, and the
Sorbonne?
George: They should be! One of the greatest things I
noticed about Prabhupada was the way he would be talking to you in English, and
then all of a sudden he would say it to you in Sanskrit and then translate it
back into English. It was clear that he really knew it well. His contribution
has obviously been enormous from the literary point of view, because he's
brought the Supreme Person, Krishna, more into focus. A lot of scholars and
writers know the Gita, but only on an
intellectual level. Even when they write "Krishna said...," they don't do it
with the bhakti
or love required. That's the
secret, you know--Krishna is actually a person who is the Lord and who will also
appear there in that book when there is that love, that bhakti. You can't understand the first thing about
God unless you love Him. These big so-called Vedic scholars--they
don't necessarily love Krishna, so they can't understand Him and give Him to us.
But Prabhupada was different.
WHAT HE WAS GIVING US WAS THE
HIGHEST LITERATURE, THE HIGHEST KNOWLEDGE.
Mukunda: The Vedic literatures predicted that after the
advent of Lord Caitanya five hundred years ago, there would be a Golden Age of
ten thousand years, when the chanting of the holy names of God would completely
nullify all the degradations of the modern age, and real spiritual peace would
come to this
planet.
George: Well, Prabhupada's definitely affected the world
in an absolute way. What he was giving us was the highest literature, the
highest knowledge. I mean there just isn't anything higher.
Mukunda: You write in your autobiography that "No matter
how good you are, you still need grace to get out of the material world. You can
be a yogi or a monk or a
nun, but without God's grace you still can't make it." And at the end of the
song "Living in the Material World," the Iyrics say, "Got to get out of this
place by the Lord Sri Krishna's grace, my salvation from the material world." If
we're dependent on the grace of God, what does the _expression_ "God helps those
who help themselves" mean?
George: It's flexible, I think. In one way, I'm never
going to get out of here unless it's by His grace but then again, His grace is
relative to the amount of desire I can manifest in myself. The amount of grace I
would expect from God should be equal to the amount of grace I can gather or
earn. I get out what I put in. Like in the song I wrote about
Prabhupada:
The Lord loves the one that loves the
Lord
And the law says if you don't
give,
then you don't get
loving
Now the Lord helps those
that help themselves
And the law
says whatever you do
It comes
right back on you
"The Lord Loves the One that Loves the
Lord" from Living in the Material World Apple LP
Have you heard that song "That Which I
Have Lost" from my new album, Somewhere in England? It's right out of the Bhagavad-gita. In it I
talk about fighting the forces of darkness, limitations, falsehood, and
mortality.
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Among the thirty-six selections chosen for this special book, we hear Srila
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cardiologist on "soul research," his revelations to London Broadcasting Company
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gurus, his dialogue with a German Benedictine monk on Krsna and Christ, his
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