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Re: heimdal on GNU HURD
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Jacques A. Vidrine |
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Re: heimdal on GNU HURD |
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Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:10:46 -0500 |
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 12:40:12PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> "Jacques A. Vidrine" <n@nectar.com> writes:
>
> > If the Hurd will not define MAXHOSTNAMELEN nor HOST_NAME_MAX, then
> > indeed there really isn't a good choice. We'd have to use sysconf or
> > _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX or what we `know' _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX to be.
> > I think it's a pity.
>
> You seriously think this is better? You don't care at all about
> providing the best system for users you can? Why would you
> deliberately choose an inferior solution?
Are referring to the fact that I would prefer to use a manifest
constant versus sysconf or looping until a fit is found? Clearly I
don't think that is an inferior solution, but rather a practical one.
Flame on if you like, but we simply disagree.
> > = On that same set of systems, where stupidly long host names are
> > used, calling xgethostname is expensive because the function does
> > not keep track of how much memory it needed last time.
>
> Oh please! Call it once.
You can't just call it once; the hostname can change during the
application's run.
> You really think this is a serious cost in
> a program that is doing lots of encryption??
No, I don't -- I just think it is a bug. One which is easy to fix for
the single-threaded case.
> It's not a mistake, it's a design principle: make nothing limited that
> doesn't need to be.
>
> That is also a GNU design principle.
>
> We are trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past rather than
> slavishly repeating them.
As I said in an earlier message, I appreciate that. I also happen to
believe that it has been misapplied here.
Cheers,
--
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- heimdal on GNU HURD, James Morrison, 2001/09/28
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2001/09/28
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Jacques A. Vidrine, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Marcus Brinkmann, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Jacques A. Vidrine, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD,
Jacques A. Vidrine <=
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Jacques A. Vidrine, 2001/09/30
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Marcus Brinkmann, 2001/09/30
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Marcus Brinkmann, 2001/09/30
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2001/09/30
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Marcus Brinkmann, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2001/09/29
- Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Marcus Brinkmann, 2001/09/29
Re: heimdal on GNU HURD, Marcus Brinkmann, 2001/09/29