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Re: Journalling filesystems

From: Bas Wijnen
Subject: Re: Journalling filesystems
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:00:24 +0200
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:48:40PM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>    >    I think they should be implemented in the Hurd.
>    >
>    > Would you like todo this?
>    Yes, I would.
> Then do so.

I might, if someone else doesn't before me.  Because I'm not going to do it
now (see below.)

>    But as Ognyan says: But we are far away from all that, and IMHO we
>    should first finish porting to L4 before dealing with such stuff.
> Where does he say this? I can't see such a message from him that
> states this.

The mailinglist is slow, you probably have the message now.

> As for this "waiting philosophy", I consider it a disease that people
> have around these parts.  If people wait and wait then nothing will
> get done. When should you _stop_ waiting?  Take the L4 example, say a
> better kernel pops up just when Hurd/L4 reaches the stability we have
> now, should we say "oh, lets wait until this kernel is done because it
> is so much better then L4, and then port the Hurd to that" (this was
> the scenario we had while we waited for the L4 X2 specification!)?
> Instead, just sit down and do the work instead.  Like write a
> journaling file-system for the Hurd, it can always be ported when
> things change.  And things will _always_ change, it is life after all.

I was not saying I was going to wait.  I said I considered the L4 port
something which should have a higher priority.  Which means I'll help to get
that port ready before going into details like journalling file systems.
They're very nice details, but quite useless without a good OS.

> So, shutup and code.

Forming an opinion about what should be implemented and how is an essential
part of implementing anything.  So I shall code, but I shall not shut up.

Bas Wijnen

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