The Hurd: what is it?

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

The lack of direction is annoying.  Marcus and I had this long
conversation on IRC about the Hurd, Hurd on Mach, Hurd on L4 and Hurd
on whatever else, the future, the past and everything inbetween.

Right now Hurd on L4 seems to be dead as a stone, more so than Hurd on
Mach.  And it will require a total redesign, total rewrite of
everything, and what not.  

People are confused where to spend their time and have become more so
now that Hurd/L4 might not even be a viable choice. Should time be
spent on the currently working Hurd/Mach, should it be spent on the
non-existant Hurd/L4, or should it be spent on the
Hurd/something-that-doesn't-even-exist-yet?

Marcus answer was `that is up to each and one to decide'.  This is
completely inappropriate from someone who is a co-maintainer.

Right now we have two projects that try to achive the same goal while
being totally incomaptible with each other, and there is a chance that
yet another alternative comes a long that is incompatible with both of
the previous efforts.

So I'm asking the maintainers (Roland, Thomas) what the heck is the
direction of the Hurd is or should be.  If it is the Hurd/Mach, then
Hurd/L4 should be dropped completely, if it is Hurd/L4, then Hurd/Mach
should be dropped compltely, or if it is
Hurd/something-that-doesn't-even-exist.