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Re: Niches for the Hurd: evaluation method; was: DRM musings, capabiliti

From: Arne Babenhauserheide
Subject: Re: Niches for the Hurd: evaluation method; was: DRM musings, capabilities and stuff
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:30:47 +0100
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Am Dienstag 30 Dezember 2008 13:21:21 schrieb Michal Suchanek:
> On 30/12/2008, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> wrote:
> > Am Dienstag 30 Dezember 2008 11:51:05 schrieb Michal Suchanek:
> > > And how is the computer ever going to not allow sending the photo?
> >
> > For example because the camera is a test version where you have to pay to
> >  unlock the photo-sharing feature.
> >
> >  You can't think of further examples?
> >  If so, you definitely aren't evil enough for this world ;)
> >
> >  > If you are running a free system you can do whatever you wish.
> >
> > Which isn't the case if someone gave me a locked down device running on
> > free software. And a "design feature" of Coyotos is that you can very
> > easily do that lock down.
> >
> >  > However, you have to buy a camera that does not refuse to work with a
> >  > free system which you cannot enforce by any technical features or
> >  > legal licensing terms of the system your computer runs. You have to be
> >  > educated about the possibility of DRM and avoid it in devices and
> >  > services you use.
> >
> > I fully agree, except for the legal licensing part. Naturally you can use
> > a device which forbids you by legal means to share photos on a free
> > system. You just aren't allowed to distribute such a device with a free
> > system.
> >
> >  But I'd like to add:
> >  You should avoid contributing to projects which make it easier to create
> >  applications which refuse to work with a device built on free software
> > (locked down free software is quite similar to unfree software with
> > opened source code, so I don't consider a locked down device as "built on
> > free software").
> >
> >  The freedom of software has a value in itself, and devices which require
> > an unfree system deny people their freedom.
> If you meant that the camera itself cannot run free software if it
> disallows sharing your pictures that might be true for GPL3 software,
> not free software in general.

That is not what I meant. 

I meant that the software with which I interact with the camera uses DRM to 
keep me from copying the pictures from my system to some other system, so the 
unfree camera makes my own system betray me. 

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