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Re: What do you need from the Hurd for your day-to-day tasks?

From: Ivan Shmakov
Subject: Re: What do you need from the Hurd for your day-to-day tasks?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:18:32 +0700
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>>>>> Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov, le Wed 28 Jul 2010 19:13:44 +0700, a écrit :

 >>> - PPPoE/routing/NAT/packet filtering.

 >> I'd much appreciate IPv6 support, and there will be virtually no
 >> need for NAT for me then.

 > AIUI, IPv6 is already supported.

        Indeed.  Somehow, I've failed to notice that.

 >> • message passing on top of Linux:

 >> – with a user-space daemon;

 > Zheng Da's DDE work, yes.

        As per [1], it's quite the contrary: running Linux device
        drivers in user-space with Mach as the host kernel, while I'm
        suggesting running Linux as the host, and Mach in user-space.

        Somehow, I think that the latter would be a bit easier to

 >> Do I understand it correctly that once a Mach could be made to run
 >> in user-space (the same trick as with User-mode Linux), making Hurd
 >> run on top of it will be straightforward?

 > I'd tend to think that, yes.  You just need to be able to catch the
 > few kernel traps (there are really only few of them), and off you go.
 > The Xen port, for instance, didn't need *any* change below GNU Mach.

        ACK, thanks.

[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/dde.html

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