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Re: Hurd GSoC 2013 projects

From: Thomas Schwinge
Subject: Re: Hurd GSoC 2013 projects
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 23:02:08 +0200
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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:24:52 +0300, Fotis Koutoulakis 
<fotis.koutoulakis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Copyright assignment.
> Having read that, I would like to ask one question. Is it possible
> that I can assign
> copyrights to the FSF for any possible contribution to any given
> moment?

No.  Such blanket assignments have been done for a few companies, but not
for individuals, as far as I know.  (I don't know why.)

> Anyway, I will sent the copyright assignment, most likely, tomorrow.

Yep, I received your initial email.

> >> Time commitment.
> I have no foreseeable issues with time, and don't have any time off
> planned, however I would like
> to know if any of you guys are planning to go to Debconf in
> Switzerland in August. If you do, then
> I would love to participate in Debconf and get to know you guys if possible.

I won't be able to attend (2013-08-11 to 18).  Don't know about the
others.  Somewhat regularely, a few of us Hurd folks have been meeting at
FOSDEM, each February, Belgium, Brussels,

> >> Next steps.
> >> Fotis, please follow up on the emails Ian and I sent on this
> >> topic for GCC -- for example, is you machine fast and reliable enough to
> >> build GCC natively on GNU/Hurd?
> I think I had sent an email regarding that. Then again, maybe not. In
> any case, my computer seems to be fast enough. I will provide
> benchmarks when I find the time in that specific thread, but for now,
> I can report some specs for computer:
> It is a Debian Linux box, with a Intel Core i5 3570, 12gigs or ram,
> and 500GB hdd. I leave the specs for you to comment on. I know it's
> not state of the art

Well, that's certainly more powerful than anything I have available at
home.  :-)

> Btw I remember building gcc for Linux from scratch inside a Fedora VM
> in Virtualbox, and it was fast enough. Don't remember the numbers
> right now, I will benchmark it both in Debian (the host) and under the
> HURD (QEMU as the hypervizor) and report back on it.

Yes, please.  Rather than remember what you've done in the past ;-), I
want you to have an actually working development environment for GCC on
GNU/Hurd natively.

> >> Weekly reports.
> I will setup a user page.

That's fine, yep.

> For now, I am currently studying both the
> Hurd and GCC (using as much time as I can, because I also study for my
> exams. But I can commit (until june 21) 2-5 hours a day studying for
> my project.

Fine, but please don't neglect your university commitments.

> >> Hi Fotis, this is very nice. I grew quite fond of Go and will use it
> >> for my project as well.
> Thank you Justus! I am glad you share my enthusiasm about Google's Go.
> I will see to it that it will be available on the Hurd. Enabling
> translators written
> on the Hurd is one of my goals in my project.

Not to discourage you two, but it'll take quite some effort (both design
and implementation) until that can be done -- probably not all in one
summer.  But, yes, we can get there.  :-)


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