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Re: GDB/GCC/Hurd GSoC 2013 projects

From: Thomas Schwinge
Subject: Re: GDB/GCC/Hurd GSoC 2013 projects
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:13:52 +0200
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Hi Fotis!

Neither have you shown up at the scheduled weekly IRC meeting, nor have
you given any notice that you wouldn't be able to make it this week.
Also, I have not seen any kind of status report from you in a very long

I know you have been busy with university work before, which is fine, but
in the application process you stated that »after the 20th of June, I
will be able to work full time«.  I'm not aware/have not been made aware
of any other obstacles that would take your time now.

Please explain, and send a status report immediately.

I have always encouraged you to report early if there are any issues you
need help with, which I have not seen you do.

Be aware, as I reported in the weekly IRC meeting, that I'll be away
starting tomorrow morning through Monday, inclusive.  Samuel will lead
the next IRC meeting on Monday.

Sorry for the rather harsh words, but Google, as your current employer,
has assigned to me, in my position of dubbed GSoC mentor, the
responsibility for making sure you're complying to the program guidelines
-- which I currently can't be sure of.  It is now the time to fix this.

Below, I'm repeating the rules that I thought we agreed on.  If anything
of that is inconvenient for you, including the timing of the weekly IRC
meeting, we can certainly address your wishes -- once we know them.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:52:20 +0200, I wrote:
> I propose the following scheme: effective now, GSoC students send a
> weekly report at the end of each week (so, on Friday, or on the weekend
> -- as an exception at the very latest one hour before the following
> regular IRC meeting), and regular IRC meetings are held each Monday,
> during the GSoC students' day-time, that is, between 7 UTC and 12 UTC
> (translating to 9 UTC+2 and 14 UTC+2, and 15 UTC+8 and 20 UTC+8).
> Unfortunately, this probably will be inconvenient for Ian and Luis, so I
> do not expect you to attend regularely, but rather be consulted on
> demand.  More specifically, would Monday, 8 UTC (10 UTC+2, 16 UTC+8) work
> for everyone, typically?  ("Everyone" here means the GSoC students, GSoC
> mentors, and everyone else who is interested.)
> Of course, despite the regular meeting, you're still very much encouraged
> to discuss issues early, as they come up, instead of waiting for the next
> meeting.
> Weekly reports, as discussed before:
> | Weekly reports.  Additional to the IRC meetings and any other emails you
> | send, we'd like some sort of weekly report, covering what you have done
> | in the last week, what worked fine, what didn't, and so on.  How/where
> | you do the reporting, we don't really care, as long as it's publically
> | accessible.  You can send a weekly status email, or post an article on
> | your personal blog, of host a page/blog on the GNU Hurd wiki (which
> | several GSoC students have done in the past; see some of the subpages on
> | <http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/user/>).
> | 
> | It is best of course, if there is some correlation between the timeline
> | you proposed in your GSoC project applications and the progress you're
> | actually making, but it is to be expected that you have to adjust the
> | former.  (And don't worry if ther are weeks where you don't seem to get a
> | lot done -- things take time.)  Please do make some effort to predict how
> | log certain tasks will take (and then how long they actually took...):
> | this is a good exercise for the difficult topic of software development
> | time scheduling (speaking from my own experience...) ;-) and that surely
> | will be helpful later in your jobs, too.


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