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Re: Hurd Fork: Announcement & Invitation
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Ivan Shmakov |
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Re: Hurd Fork: Announcement & Invitation |
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Sat, 21 Jul 2018 04:20:31 +0000 |
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>>>>> Amos Jeffries <squid3@treenet.co.nz> writes:
>>>>> On 21/07/18 09:37, Ranvijay Kumar Vijay wrote:
[…]
>> because I’ve seen discussions on the net where people didn’t want to
>> be a part of Hurd just because it requires Copyright assignment to FSF.
>> I personally think they are mistaken, but have created this project
>> to save time from clearing their misunderstandings.
> While your intentions may be pure, this looks more like an attempted
> hijack to me.
So long as we stick to the essential freedoms [1], forks are
valid. They may be suboptimal investment of one’s time and
effort, but it’s in the eye of beholder, is it not?
[1] What is free software? URI: http://gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> The result is likely to distract people not already involved with the
> copyright disagreement and place their work into an area which cannot
> be fed back to the Hurd itself. Due to the explicit copyright
> intentions of those people you mention, their work and anything
> relying on it directly (as the forked code would) cannot be submitted
> to the FSF project for inclusion in Hurd.
Frankly, I fail to see much difference here; if one publishes
a modification for Hurd, it’s either covered by an assignment,
or it isn’t. And in the latter case, the author (or copyright
holder in general) can always assign copyright at a latter time.
So, if a contribution goes to a Hurd fork, and its author later
signs up the copyright assignment and states that that contribution
is indeed covered, the contribution can be included in GNU Hurd.
> So the most likely outcomes will either be a large increase in
> porting work placed on the shoulders of the already limited Hurd
> community,
The only problem of sorts there’s with such forks is that if
a patch is contributed to a fork, and said patch is not covered
by a copyright assignment, then /no similar patch/ (code-wise,
not idea-wise, as copyright covers expressions, not ideas) can
enter GNU Hurd.
> or moving control of the Hurd brand away from the FSF over to
> yourself.
I don’t think I understand this.
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