Re: Cannot easily contribute to the wiki

[Joshua Branson]

Thomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com> writes:

> Hi!
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:42:08 -0400, Joshua Branson <jbranso@fastmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> "./render_locally".
>>
>> $ ymlfront: failed to use YAML::Syck
>
> Nothing else get printed?

Nope.  That's the only error message that I get.  :(

>
>> Luckily Parabola packages perl-yaml-syck!  But after I ran installed
>> perl-yaml-syck, I still got the same error:
>>
>> $ ymlfront: failed to use YAML::Syck
>>
>> So I rebooted and tried again.   Same error:
>>
>> $ ymlfront: failed to use YAML::Syck
>>
>>
>> Granted, on my parabola machine, I'm not sure if I have all of the
>> dependancies.  Mainly the wiki says to use apt-get, which I don't have.
>>
>> $ apt-get install ikiwiki libyaml-syck-perl markdown libsearch-xapian-perl 
>> texinfo
>>
>>
>> Here's the dependancies I know I have:
>>
>> [joshua@dobby hurd-web]$ pacman -Q markdown texinfo perl-yaml-syck
>> discount 2.2.4-1
>> texinfo 6.5-1
>> perl-yaml-syck 1.30-5
>
> What does the following print?
>
>     $ perl -e 'use YAML::Syck' && echo OK

It outputs:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
        LANGUAGE = (unset),
        LC_ALL = (unset),
        LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
OK

So I should probably figure out how to set my language and LC_ALL...

>
>
> I do remember commit 178b9e4a14e8ea6fa415c3c36461e41da8434694 "ymlfront:
> Force use of YAML::Syck", but that shouldn't cause any problems if the
> relevant Perl packages are properly installed.  You might try to
> temporarily revert that one, though.
>
> Or, temporarily disable (some of) these plugins, see "ikiwiki.setup".
> You should still be able to "render_locally", just some information will
> be missing on a few pages.

I'll have to give that a shot.  This might be obvious, but I'm afraid to
commit patches for the wiki, until I can see the results of the
patches.  ie: I don't want to write incorrect markdown, and the only way
to make sure it is correct, is to render it locally.  You probably know
this, and I'm just ranting.  :)

>
>
>> So since my Parabola GNU/Linux machine didn't work, I thought I'd try
>> the Hurd vm I have.
>
> How do you start the VM?

I use a shell script:

[joshua@dobby ~]$ which hurd
/home/joshua/programming/bash/hurd
[joshua@dobby ~]$ cat $(which hurd)
#!/bin/bash
modprobe kvm
modprobe kvm_intel
cd ~/programming/gnu/hurd/vm/
MEMORY=2G
FILE=debian-hurd-2017-11-01.img
# If I ever need to add a cdrom
    echo "running ssh"

qemu-system-i386 -m $MEMORY -net nic                          \
                     -net user,
                     hostfwd=tcp:127.0.0.1:2222-:22     \
                     -drive file=$FILE,cache=writeback,format=raw \
                     -enable-kvm                                  \
                     -curses                                      \
                     -no-reboot;
                     # -curses                                      \
                     # -machine kernel_irqchip=off                  \


Just last night I had some trouble sshing into the vm too, so I'll have
to investigate that.
>
>> Then I booted up my Hurd VM and tried git pulling.
>>
>>  fatal: Unable to look up darnassus.sceen.net (port 9418) (Temporary failure 
>> in n
>>                                        ame resolution)
>
> Same when pulling from savannah.gnu.org, probably?

Apparently I'm pulling from braunr's repo.  I think

joshua@debian:~/programming/hurd-web$ git remote -v
                                       origin  
git://darnassus.sceen.net/hurd-web.git (fetch)
                                       origin  
git://darnassus.sceen.net/hurd-web.git (push)

 joshua@debian:~/programming/hurd-web$ which ping
                                       /bin/ping
                                       joshua@debian:~/programming/hurd-web$ 
ping www.google.com
                                       ping: unknown host

joshua@debian:~/programming/hurd-web$ git fetch git://git.savannah.gnu.org/hurd/
                                       web.git
                                       fatal: Unable to look up 
git.savannah.gnu.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in
                                       name resolution)

>
>> I also got this error as the vm was booting:
>> ip up: failed to bring up /dev/eth0
>
> Does the information from
> <20180922084542.7v26lpgphexf52vn@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr">http://mid.mail-archive.com/20180922084542.7v26lpgphexf52vn@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr>
> help by any chance?
>

Well maybe.  I changed the script to this:

[joshua@dobby ~]$ cat $(which hurd)
#!/bin/bash
modprobe kvm
modprobe kvm_intel
cd ~/programming/gnu/hurd/vm/
MEMORY=2G
FILE=debian-hurd-2017-11-01.img
# If I ever need to add a cdrom
    echo "running ssh"

    qemu-system-i386 -m $MEMORY  \
                     -net user -net nic, model=rtl8139   \  # make wiki use a 
driver card that gnumach has available in the kernel
    hostfwd=tcp:127.0.0.1:2222-:22     \
           -drive file=$FILE,cache=writeback,format=raw \
           -enable-kvm                                  \
           -curses                                      \
           -no-reboot;
    # -machine kernel_irqchip=off                  \


I then got this error:

[joshua@dobby ~]$ hurd
running ssh
Gtk-Message: 11:23:18.177: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
qemu-system-i386: -net nic,: Could not open 'model=rtl8139': No such file or 
directory
/home/joshua/programming/bash/hurd: line 12: -drive: command not found


>
>> So, I'm kind of stuck at the moment.  :(
>
> Well, on the contrary, there certainly are enough items here that can be
> investigated.  :-)
>
>
> Grüße
>  Thomas


P.S.  well frick.  I had a script that worked to boot the hurd at some
point.  Now I don't.  The script that I now have, fails with this:

[joshua@dobby ~]$ hurd
running ssh
qemu-system-i386: -net user,: Unknown protocol 'hostfwd=tcp'

So I'll have to disable ssh forwarding for the moment until I get this
all figured out.  Thanks for the help!