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Re: Fwd: GNU MIG

From: Nala Ginrut
Subject: Re: Fwd: GNU MIG
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:28:01 +0800
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Hi folks!
I've planned to reimplement MIG or modern syntax in GNU Guile for
years. But I'm not sure how many people are interested in this work.

Joshua Branson writes:

> Protonmail Me <sjoerd.van.leent@pm.me> writes:
>> Dear Hurd Developers,
>> I attempted to send below e-mail to the hurd-maintainters, but I found out 
>> that this e-mail is presented on Savannah, although posted in 2011. I hope 
>> that I
>> am doing this right.
>> Aside from what I mentioned in the e-mail forwarded, I want to add two other 
>> bullets:
>> *) I'd like to upgrade GNU MIG's IDL language to a more modern syntax, and 
>> enhance MIG with asynchronous handling
>> *) I totally forgot to mention Emacs LISP and PERL as a possible target 
>> languages, my bad
> This sounds pretty awesome!  I think I read somewhere that GNU MIG has
> an unused bit somewhere everytime that it sends messages...You could set
> said bit to a 1, to specify that this is a newer version of MIG.  I wish
> I know where it was that I read that.
>> Further I would have a suggestion at changing the name of Mach Interface 
>> Generator to MIG Interface Generator, the latter would be useful for any GNU
>> (free) software in the need of either vertical or horizontal IPC.
> I should also mention that there are some alternatives to MIG:  FLICK.
> https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/rpc_stub_generator.html
>> Please read on,
>> Regards,
>> Sjoerd
>> -------- Doorgestuurd bericht --------
>>  Onderwerp:   GNU MIG
>>  Datum:   Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:10:40 +0200
>>  Van:   Protonmail Me <sjoerd.van.leent@pm.me>
>>  Antwoord-naar:   Protonmail Me <sjoerd.van.leent@pm.me>
>>  Aan:   hurd-maintainers@gnu.org
>> Dear GNU Hurd maintainers,
>> I have over 10 years of Geospatial (GIS) system implementations, and
>> have found some time recently to actively be able to start producing
>> free software. Within this spare time, I'd like to create a GIS
>> framework, different from libraries such as GDAL and different from
>> applications like QGIS or GRASS, finding them inadequate. Also, having
>> experience with a number of proprietary systems, I can safely say that
>> utility organisations using them suffer more than gaining something out
>> of them. For me, reason enough to embark on this train.
>> However, having seen what is absent and what is necessary, the first
>> thing that came to mind is a decent, reasonably efficient IPC solution.
>> REST (which is fast enough for most things) just doesn't work for the
>> monstrous data GIS systems produce and consume. Within corporate realms,
>> Protobuf is establishing itself slowly, but is not what I am looking
>> for. Then I remembered that Mach uses MIG and I remembered that the GNU
>> project was still attempting to create a microkernel, and has GNU MIG.
>> On my own computer, I made a quick test whether GNU MIG could be
>> compiled on GNU/Linux, and without to much hassle (linking some
>> platform-independent Mach stuff in), it did. However, I notice that I
>> can not seem to find any design complete documentation either on
>> functional or technical level. The MIG preprocessor (migcom) does
>> segfault easily and there are some other twitchy things (such as calling
>> mig without any arguments just puts one back in the shell without
>> warning or usage line).
>> I would be happy to embark on a mission to
>> * Work out how GNU MIG works and write some documentation (if this is
>> wanted, I would like to know whether to use GNU Info or RST and whether
>> some documentation is available somewhere)
>> * Make GNU MIG a bit more stable
>> * Extract platform requirements such that GNU MIG can be used on both
>> GNU Hurd and GNU/Linux
>> * Provide a C++(17?) generator
>> * Provide other generators (Python, GNU Guile, etc)
>> Of course, if others are already doing this, I would rather just like to
>> join them
>> Kind Regards,
>> Sjoerd van Leent

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