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Re: [PATCH 1/5] open_issues/Upstart.mdwn: delete file.

From: Samuel Thibault
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] open_issues/Upstart.mdwn: delete file.
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 18:23:33 +0200
User-agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3)

I applied the series, thanks!

jbranso@dismail.de, le lun. 15 mai 2023 11:34:53 -0400, a ecrit:
> ---
> We have no interest in supporting Upstart since it it a dead project.
>  open_issues/Upstart.mdwn | 69 ----------------------------------------
>  1 file changed, 69 deletions(-)
>  delete mode 100644 open_issues/Upstart.mdwn
> diff --git a/open_issues/Upstart.mdwn b/open_issues/Upstart.mdwn
> deleted file mode 100644
> index 1972e197..00000000
> --- a/open_issues/Upstart.mdwn
> +++ /dev/null
> @@ -1,69 +0,0 @@
> -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013, 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
> -
> -[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
> -id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify 
> this
> -document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 
> or
> -any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no 
> Invariant
> -Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.  A copy of the 
> license
> -is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
> -License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
> -
> -
> -[[!template id=highlight text="""/!\ Obsolete /!\
> -
> ----
> -
> -[[systemd|Systemd]] has almost universally replaced upstart."""]]
> -
> -Upstart is an event based init system that is GPL licensed, however upstream
> -contributions are under a CLA that permits proprietary relicensing.
> -
> -Most major GNU/Linux distributions are choosing systemd as their init system
> -instead of upstart.  The original upstart developers seem to have stopped
> -developing it.
> -
> -The following are the words of Colin Watson on the 
> debian-ctte@lists.debian.org
> -mailing list and list the requirements of a potential HURD port:
> -
> ->I haven't looked at this in much detail, and I suspect Dimitri hasn't
> -yet although IIRC he did express some interest in doing so.  But I
> -haven't seen anyone else try to outline the scope of a port, so let me
> -try to do so for the sake of general understanding.  As far as I know,
> -the hardest parts would be inotify, ptrace, and prctl
> -
> ->inotify is used to notice changes to configuration files.  This is
> -certainly helpful for users, but it isn't critical as "initctl
> -reload-configuration" works without it.  We could probably do without
> -this with the aid of a dpkg trigger.
> -
> ->ptrace is used for "expect fork" and "expect daemon"; as I indicated in
> -another post, I think it would be preferable to avoid these in Debian
> -and quite possibly to compile them out.  (This would mean we wouldn't be
> -able to translate Ubuntu jobs quite as directly, and a number of
> -important jobs would definitely need to be changed, but the conversion
> -isn't usually particularly difficult.)
> -
> ->prctl (PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER) is used to make SIGCHLD notification work
> -properly when Upstart is supervising a user session.  This isn't a
> -required feature and could easily be compiled out until suitable kernel
> -support is available (this actually seems like the sort of thing that
> -could be done in the Hurd without too much difficulty, but I haven't
> -looked into it).  If absent, it might well impede the ability to do an
> -advanced desktop port, but it wouldn't get in the way of porting the
> -bulk of services.
> -
> ->There might also be odds and ends around the details of wait status
> -handling.
> -
> -inotify seems to be a feature that is often used in GNU/Linux programs, and
> -implementing the feature in the HURD seems like a better and more rewarding
> -option than porting the code in Upstart.
> -
> -Although many daemons double fork, that behavior seems to be dying out, and
> -one can comfortably ignore the "expect fork/daemon" functionality of Upstart
> -(and compile it out).
> -
> -[[!tag open_issue_porting]]
> -
> -See also the discussion about upstart on the [[systemd]] page.
> -- 
> 2.32.0

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