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Re: Odp: fingering

From: Albert Einstein
Subject: Re: Odp: fingering
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:34:06 -0500

Do you know something about marking barre ? 
-- I want to use for marking barre arpeggio bracket, but I have problem
in polyphony syntax because I can't connect chord with bottom pitch.
 I tried {\arpeggioBracket <a b>4 \arpeggio  } // {\arpeggioBracket a
\arpeggio } -- the problem is that I obtained 2 bracket not one.


  Tue, 2005-01-11 at 11:05 -0500, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: 
> On Monday 10 January 2005 07:26 pm, Albert Einstein wrote:
> > The link shoud be: http://www.openguitar.com/files/cma0.pdf
> Thanks.  Stupid mistake.  And using \thumb instead of \ft
> is a better idea too, but my definition.  I didn't get the
> "thumb script", but it's a terrible idea for guitar music.
> Looks too much like a 0 zero, which is why no one will ever
> use it except cellists.
> >
> > If you use polyphony syntax {} // {}
> > you can put number of finger close note head
> >  as follows:
> >  { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right)
> > <a'-2>4. } // {}
> > > > Somehow it never gets easier to get the numbers on staff lines, 
> > > unless they precede the note of course. 
> Putting a finger indication after a note is a world-class bad
> idea.  It's just asking for errors.  It's always better before
> than after.  See:
> http://www.openguitar.com/files/chords.pdf
> Imagine what a mess it would be with some of the fingering after.
> Actually, LilyPond did a close to perfect job there.  The only
> fault is that for some reason there is extra space
> between the finger number and the accidental when the note
> is high, for example the fifth measure third chord.
> A nasty bug, but not comparable to the vertical raising
> of finger numbers after accidental marks.  It makes no sense
> to use different horizontal spacing for accidentals and fingers,
> but there is obviously an additional problem there.
> But the Carcassi is a simple thing in two parts, and just below or
> above the note head is preferred in these cases. and it is in 
> fact the way the original was done.  Got you there.  That's in
> possibly the most successful single music publication of the 19th
> century, and not in the first edition either.  If I had fingered
> the ending chord it would have vertically 32 1 to the left.  No problem.
> > You write <a'-2>4 instead a'4-2; where 2 is second finger and 4 for
> > crotchet. If you have chord you use <a'-2 b'-3>4_\thumb.
> Using the chord syntax produced no difference on the vertical,
> which was disappointing.  It should have brought the number
> right up to the note head.  Another serious bug.  Since everyone
> seems to be hell-bent on keeping fingers off staff lines, I
> doubt it will be acknowledged as such.  daveA

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