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Re: Smaller PDF, shrinking away largeness


From: Graham Percival
Subject: Re: Smaller PDF, shrinking away largeness
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:05:19 -0800
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What we need is this:
- create a single example which you can run in different lilypond
versions.
- check the PDF size in different lilypond versions.
- when you have found the release that increases the size dramatically,
send an email to the bug mailist.

At the very least, we need to know which stable release (the even X in 2.X) increased the filesize. If you can track it down further, that's better of course. The more information we have, the faster we can fix this.

I need to know what example you ran, and what lilypond versions you tried it on. Are lyrics worse than notes alone? What about lyrics by themselves? Do the headers matter? etc.

Cheers,
- Graham


Erlend Aasland wrote:
Current git (2.11.35) produces a 31975 byte (31KB) file on MacOSX 10.5.

Regards,
  Erlend Aasland

On 3. des. 2007, at 21:25, Thomas Scharkowski wrote:

Lilypond 2.4.6 on cygwin produces a 26 KB pdf.

Thomas

This has been added as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=519

but we really need more information.  The gap between 1.9.8 and 2.10
is huge, so no further action will be taken unless somebody narrows
down the version.  At the very least, we need to know the stable
version that began the larger files (ie an even X in 2.X.0).

The TeX system shouldn't affect how lilypond behaves... at least for
modern versions (2.0 and higher?  2.2 and higher?)

- Graham

Laura Conrad wrote:
"Graham" == Graham Percival <address@hidden> writes:

   Graham> Sean Gugler wrote:
PDF files seem larger than necessary, is there something I
can do to shrink them?  Besides setting 'point-and-click
false, which I've already done.

I replied:

I think it should be considered a bug on some level, maybe an
enhancement request.

   Graham> Then file a bug.  Input file, the exact commands used to
   compile it, Graham> and output on 2.11.35 and on whatever
   earlier version you're comparing Graham> it to.

OK, here's twinkle-pop.ly on 2.0:
Input:


--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Output:


--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Notice that the size is 25370.  I can't run this version of lilypond
any more on a modern ubuntu system, because of the TeX version
changes, but I believe all I said was "lilypond twinkle-pop.ly".

Here it is on 2.10.33:



--------------------------------------------------------------------
----


Here the size is 60139, more than twice as big.  And there are files
that have much bigger differences than this.

I believe the size difference had actually happened before 2.8.



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