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Re: separating music and guitar instructions


From: Vicente Solsona
Subject: Re: separating music and guitar instructions
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:58:28 +0200
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:11:45 +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk
<address@hidden> wrote:
Sorry for delay. I am still brave enough to add "this" to the tracker but not
sure that this issue is clear enough, sorry.

Dmytro,

many thanks for taking the time to keep this alive :)

I am affraid, if this is _a question_ ("should or should not"), it's still not
a valid issue report?

I definitely think it is, but we are mixing two things:

1) fingering indications are not displayed in *standard notation* if
     entered with no angle braces, but they are displayed in *tablature*.

     this is a Lilypond *feature*. Some users seem to be fine with it
     (myself included) while some other may have some objections: Xavier
     Scheuer finds it annoying, and David Kastrup observed:

     "Would seem like a case for a context variable rather than hardwired"

We can discuss whether this is a real issue or it is fine as it is now.
     For me, it's not so important to raise a real issue. I "can live" with
     this feature as it is now (but as Patrick Schmidt pointed, then the
Notation Manual must should be adjusted, but let's forget this for now,
     I can make a proper issue request later).

2) what I'm actually reporting seems really a *bug* to me. Please let me
     reformulate it with a more complete example:

%-----------------8<--------------------------------
Summary: some fingering indications and fingering related commands are not
displayed
           when entered in a separate expression
Type: Defect
Priority: Medium

\version "2.12.3"

music = \relative c'' {<c>4 <c> <c> <c> <c> \stemUp <c>}

fingerings = {
    s4-1    % it's displayed
    s4\2    % it's not displayed
    s4-\rightHandFinger #2  % it's not displayed
    \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) % doesn't work
    s4-2

    \override Fingering #'staff-padding = #'() % *does* work
    s4-3
    \override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##f % doesn't work
    s4-1
}

\score {
          <<
                  \new Staff \context Voice = "A" \music
                  \context Voice = "A" \fingerings
          >>
}
%-----------------8<--------------------------------

This is the real issue report I'd want to make.

I'm not a native english, and sometimes I express myself awfully. My
apologies for this. Please let me know if I can make the report clearer.

Many thanks again.

Greetings,

Vicente




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