Re: autobeaming in cadenza

[Carl Sorensen]

On 9/29/10 4:18 AM, "Dmytro O. Redchuk" <address@hidden> wrote:

> On Wed 29 Sep 2010, 02:35 Keith E OHara wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:13:44 -0700, Dmytro O. Redchuk
>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, why do you expect it to work? I wouldn't expect, because of the
>>> nature
>>> (my understanding of) of cadenza...
>>> 
>> 
>> Dmytro,
>>    Very good point.
>> 
>> Reasons to expect auto-beaming to work:
>> 
>> Even though a cadenza has a free rhythm and is not divided into bars, it
>> usually has a rhythmic structure, and is written using the usual conventions
>> of music with a beat.  Beethoven's 'emperor' concerto (small image attached)
>> opens with a cadenza, but is written using tuplets and beams to show how the
>> notes fit in the underlying pulse.  Most cadenzas are simpler (Chopin image
>> attached).
>> 
>> The examples for \cadenzaOn in NR 1.2.3 show notes that are autobeamed, which
>> implies that users can expect autobeaming to work.
>> 
>> Autobeaming _tries_ to work: if the notes are beam-able, at least some of
>> them are auto-beamed according to the time signature in effect before
>> \cadenzaOn.
>> 
>> 
>> Reasons we should not expect auto-beaming to work:
> No, i can agree that autobeaming should (or "would be great to") work in
> cadenzas; but i can not imagine how to describe expected behavior.
> 
> _How_ this should work?
> 
> This can be a valid issue report (most probably enhancement/feature request);
> please, could you modify your initial "minimal example" -- include some
> explicit autobeaming rule[1] and describe what you expected to have.
> (I hardly can imagine which autobeaming defaults should be in cadenzas.)
> 
> Thanks!

I think that autobeaming in cadenzas should beam according to baseMoment,
i.e. all beats should be grouped together in baseMoment units.

Thanks,

Carl