Re: Accidental and clef change issue

[Reinhold Kainhofer]

Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:44:22 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
> Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:14:05 schrieb David Kastrup:
> > Reinhold Kainhofer <address@hidden> writes:
> > > I would be great, though, if anyone can find a published example of
> > > such a situation (most likely in e.g. cello/bassoon parts/scores,
> > > which frequently switch between bass and tenor clef).
> > 
> > Edition Peters, piano excerpt by Brissler from Mozart Requiem,
> > "Confutatis".  The g in the corni di bassotto entry is not even in the
> > same octave, and still gets a natural.
> 
> Also, in the Bärenreiter piano reduction of Bach's Christmas oratorio,
> measure 7 of the Choral Nr. 23 ("Wir singen dir"), p.72 of Bärenreiter BA
> 5014a.
> 
> 
> There is a dis' in treble clef, followed by a d in bass clef. That d gets a
> natural cancellation.

I have now also looked at several cello parts of my girlfriend. For example, 
in Dvorak's cello concerto (1955, Schott edition, Revision by Enrico Mainardi) 
there is the following image (notice the e natural after the clef with the e 
flat before the clef):
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RILU4L-9yytXkwELD607_FgxyXiAQ8P3wVPB2tHCMdU?feat=directlink

Also, in Schumann's cello concerto there is the following measure (the last 
measure in the image has two d, where the natural is repeated after the 
clef!):
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/A1Nm3cUd0o4W28xaJx001VgxyXiAQ8P3wVPB2tHCMdU?feat=directlink

So, it seems there is no clear rule that a clef cancels all accidentals in the 
current measure so far. But most of the time, the accidental is given as some 
kind of cautinary/courtesy accidental.

Cheers,
Reinhold
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