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Re: Issue 1752 in lilypond: redesigning G clef in our Feta font


From: lilypond
Subject: Re: Issue 1752 in lilypond: redesigning G clef in our Feta font
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:06:21 +0000

Updates:
        Labels: font

Comment #15 on issue 1752 by address@hidden: redesigning G clef in our Feta font
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1752

2011/7/11  <address@hidden>:

Comment #13 on issue 1752 by percival.music.ca: redesigning G clef in our
Feta font
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1752

Unless absolutely every single person prefers the new clef, I have serious
concerns about changing it.  This sounds like a Critical regression to me.

?!?

Comment #14 by percival.music.ca:
wait, let me rephrase that: it wouldn't be a Critical regression because it
would be a deliberate change.
However, [...]

Whew.

Besides, I really think that supporting the old clef would not be a great
deal of work -- and that work would be beneficial to all future font work.

Ok, i agree that if there will be anyone not satisfied with the change, we should make it possible to choose old clef. Do you think that approach similar to choosing between one- and double-lined breve would be sufficient? (see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#durations) If so, i can investigate it. Still, i hope that my revised proposal will be accepted by people that didn't like the original suggestion; most of them didn't give their opinions on the new suggested shape yet.

 I mean, if you actually made a separate "Oscypek" font, which was optional,
then I would be 100% comfortable pushing patches from you (to that font)
completely blindly.  No user discussion, no review, etc.  You could make
whatever changes to that font you wanted.
(caveats: I'd need to get agreement from other developers, and your patches
would still need to compile.  And you might want to survey users anyway.
But you would be working from a position of strength (i.e. you would have
the final say about what went into Oscypek), instead of trying to reach
consensus with everybody for every single change!)

Yes, i thought about this, too. However, until we encounter a font issue that couldn't be agreed upon, i don't think it's needed. Firtsly, i'm happy with the current discussion (and i think that my revised proposal is indeed better than the original one - thanks to your feedback!). Secondly, if i see something that is - in my opinion - wrong (i'm not talking about personal style preferences), i'd prefer to fix it for everyone, not only include an optional switch. Nevertheless, designing fonts in different styles interests me, so sooner or later it will be good to do what you say.

thanks,
Janek


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