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Re: Lyrics too cozy with notes


From: Colin Hall
Subject: Re: Lyrics too cozy with notes
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:57:43 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 06:53:57PM +0100, Mike Solomon wrote:
> 
> On 16 d?c. 2012, at 18:46, "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > <address@hidden> wrote in message news:address@hidden
> > 
> > On 16 d?c. 2012, at 18:37, "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> >> <address@hidden> wrote in message news:address@hidden
> >>> In the following example :
> >>> 
> >>> \version "2.17.9"
> >>> 
> >>> <<
> >>> \relative c' { g a' a r4 a1 }
> >>> \addlyrics { u u u u }
> >>> \relative c''' { r2 r32 d8.. r4 R1 }
> >>>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm not convinced that the lower voice should slice through the lyrics. 
> >>> I'm typesetting a choral works and it looks, while sightreading, that the 
> >>> u in the higher voice is a sort of annotation for the lower voice (the 
> >>> spacing is even tighter in my real example).
> >>> 
> >>> What does real literature do?  Does this type of typesetting ever happen? 
> >>> I think it'd be worth it to horizontally pad skylines in Lyric contexts 
> >>> so that this sort of snug fitting doesn't happen.
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> MS
> >> 
> >> I'd expect the staves to be spaced further apart to keep the upper lyrics 
> >> away from the lower notes.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Phil Holmes
> >> Bug Squad
> >> 
> > 
> > Me too - I think it's a valid bug report unless anyone has evidence to the 
> > contrary.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > MS
> > 
> > =================================
> > 
> > The only thing I would say is that, in this situation, the lower line would 
> > need its own lyrics, and these would typically also be between the staves. 
> > What happens if you do that?
> > 
> 
> Haven't tested it - it likely spaces out correctly, though.  In a hymnal 
> this'd be how things are typeset, but in a four-staff SATB arrangement the 
> lyrics almost always go under the music, so the test case is still valid.

Thanks Mike, Phil.

I've created a tracker with preview image here:

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3035

Cheers,
Colin.

-- 

Colin Hall



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