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Re: NR 1.2.3 Upbeats: confusing explanation of measurePosition


From: Federico Bruni
Subject: Re: NR 1.2.3 Upbeats: confusing explanation of measurePosition
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:20:40 +0100
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Il 31/12/2012 00:23, Trevor Daniels ha scritto:

Federico, you wrote Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:59 PM


In NR 1.2.3, Upbeats:

"""
So \partial 8 becomes:

\time 3/4
\set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 8)
e8 | a4 c8 b c4 |

_The property measurePosition contains a rational number indicating how
much of the measure has passed at this point_. Note that this is set to
a negative number by the \partial command: i.e., \partial 4 is
internally translated to -4, meaning “there is a quarter note left in
the measure.”
"""

IMO the first sentence is a bit confusing.
What the number says actually is "how much of the measure is needed to
complete the time signature", 1/8 in the example above. This implicitely
says how much of the measure has passed at this point: 3/4 - 1/8 = 5/8

Because the time in the measure is calculated modulo the time
signature the position -1/8 is the same as 5/8 in 3/4 time.  But -1/8
is at position 5/8 in the /previous/ bar.


Ok, that is bar 0

The text tries to explain what \partial does, which is count backwards
over the anacrusis.  If you set measurePosition to 5/8 it looks the same
as it does when set to -1/8, but the bar numbering will be 1 off.


Ok, I see.
I think that we should try to explain it better, even if it's not easy.
As pointed out by Rheinold, we should stress the fact that partial bar is measure 0.

Thanks
--
Federico



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