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Re: PointAndClick on Windows


From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: PointAndClick on Windows
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 12:10:53 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux)

"Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:

> "David Kastrup" <address@hidden> wrote in message
> news:address@hidden
>> "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Janek Warchoł" <address@hidden>
>>> To: "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden>
>>> Cc: "Bugs" <address@hidden>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: PointAndClick on Windows
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2013/4/8 Phil Holmes <address@hidden>:
>>>>> As far as I'm aware, point and click doesn't, and can't, work on
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>> See
>>>>> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Point-and-Click-does-not-work-on-Windows-td115986.html
>>>>> for details.  I'd like to raise a bug report for this, so that I
>>>>> can get the
>>>>> opportunity to fix it at an appropriate time in the development
>>>>> cycle. Just
>>>>> want to check that no-one disagrees and has it working out of the box.
>>>>
>>>> You're referring to point-and-click right from pdf viewer?
>>>> Because if you mean Frescobaldi's use of point-and-click as well, i
>>>> have to say that it always worked for me on windows.
>>>> Janek
>>>>
>>>
>>> Correct.  I assume Frescobaldi implements its own point-and-click
>>> helper, which fixes the non-functioning of the as-delivered version.
>>
>> Frescobaldi has its own viewer.  I have a hard trouble understanding
>> what you mean by "non-functioning of the as-delivered version".
>
> If you click on one of the embedded links, no file is loaded in any
> editor. That's a fairly simple definition of "non-functioning".
> i.e. nothing happens of any use.
>
>>The
>> point of point-and-click is that textedit:// links get embedded into the
>> PDF.  That certainly can and does work under Windows.
>
> Agreed.  But they do nothing useful.
>
>> The question is how to make the PDF viewer do something, and the answer
>> for that depends on the PDF viewer.  It is not, as far as I can see,
>> related to the operating system.  The PDF viewer might delegate the URI
>> interpretation to some generic mechanism and/or it might have ways to
>> handle some forms itself when properly configured.
>
> No.  It does not depend on the viewer, it depends on the operating
> system and the installed editors.

I disagree.  You can't click on links in a PDF file without involving a
viewer, so calling the problem viewer-independent does not make any
sense.

For example, I use Emacs as an editor.  Using xpdf as PDF viewer,
point-and-click works for me.  Using Evince, it doesn't.

That's hardly viewer-independent behavior.

-- 
David Kastrup




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