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Re: page-break-permission = ##f doesn't work for the final manual \pageB


From: Paul Morris
Subject: Re: page-break-permission = ##f doesn't work for the final manual \pageBreak
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:51:38 -0800 (PST)

Paul Morris wrote
> Hmmm...  one way to look at this is that the docs here:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/explicit-breaks
> 
> give the impression that LilyPond has a mode that will _only_ insert
> breaks where there are explicit break commands (***and nowhere else***). 
> But is that actually the case?  The following leads you to think there is
> such a "manual break only" mode:
> 
> "When line-break-permission is overridden to false, Lily will insert line
> breaks at explicit \break commands ***and nowhere else***. When
> page-break-permission is overridden to false, Lily will insert page breaks
> at explicit \pageBreak commands ***and nowhere else***."
> 
> 
> But what it says at the top of that page is a little different:
> 
> "Lily sometimes rejects explicit \break and \pageBreak commands. There are
> two commands to override this behavior:"
> 
> If that is the more accurate account of what these commands do, then they
> don't really prevent automatic breaks from being inserted.  They just
> prevent explicit breaks from being ignored/rejected.  If that's the case
> then I think the next part should be revised like this:
> 
> "When line-break-permission is overridden to false, Lily will _always_
> insert line breaks at explicit \break commands. When page-break-permission
> is overridden to false, Lily will _always_ insert page breaks at explicit
> \pageBreak commands."

I withdraw this suggestion, given the evidence in the other thread (that I
started about the example on this page).

But that evidence further confirms to me that what I'm seeing here is indeed
a bug, since it looks like no automatic page breaks should be inserted at
all when page-break-permission is ##f (regardless of ragged-bottom or
ragged-last-bottom settings).

As David Kastrup suggested on the user list this issue is probably related:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3281

-Paul



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