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[POLICY] Separating topics (was: NR 2.1.1: Lyric Tie and other languages


From: Simon Albrecht
Subject: [POLICY] Separating topics (was: NR 2.1.1: Lyric Tie and other languages)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 00:09:51 +0200
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You hijacked my thread! :-)
Seriously, please start a new thread (it’s not that complicated: copy and paste the address or edit the subject line) if you start a new topic. If it’s related to the existent thread, you might also use the (was) method, as I did here. Rationale: it’s extremely useful to automatically group messages according to topics, be it in an archive web page or in an e-mail software.

Thank you,
Simon

Am 06.05.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Arttu Punkkinen:
% Default behaviour of stopping hairpins at bar line
% looks rather bad if time or key changes between
%
% Couldn't find any reference on the Gould book, but
% I think it is rather ugly. The property of course is simple
% to adjust, so it is not that large a problem.
%
% The question is that does this always look ugly, and can the ugliness be
easily predicted?
% What do you think?

\version "2.19.18"
{
c'1 \<
c' \f
\bar "||"
c'1 \<
\time 2/4
c'2 \f
\bar "||"
c' \<
\key g \major
c' \f
\bar "||"
c' \<
\key des \major
\time 16/8
c' \f
}

2015-05-06 10:06 GMT+03:00 James Lowe <address@hidden>:

On 06/05/15 00:01, Simon Albrecht wrote:
Hello,

<
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note
has an example covering the use of LyricTie with Italian text. Using the
same feature with German text (and probably other languages too), or
more accurately, with multiple syllables of the same word, requires
overriding word-space, so I suggest to add the following after the
current example (i.e. after line 611/12 in vocal.itely, unless I’m
mistaken):

"
If the syllables belong to one word, it is necessary to override
word space.

@lilypond[quote,ragged-right,verbatim,relative=2]
<<
   {
     \cadenzaOn
     a4 a g c b8[( a]) b4 a2 \breathe
     \bar "" \break
     a4 c d4. c8 d4 e c2
   }
   \addlyrics {
     Er ging aus der Kam -- mer sein,
     dem
     \markup \override #'(word-space . 0)
     \tied-lyric #"kö~nig" -- li -- chen
     Saal so rein,
   }
@end lilypond
"

Best regards, Simon

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Thanks Simon, is there any reason

1. We require the \cadenzaOn (for the sake of simplifying the example as
much as possible in the doc

2. Is it *always* necessary to override the word space in the case of
when syllables belong to one word or is this

i. a specific type of case
ii, are there any other ways to do this without using an '\override'
(again for the sake of a more complete explanation and perhaps
additional example)

Regards

James

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