Re: \parenthesize is not affected by \tweak

[Nikolai Hedler]

I'm an outside party here, but I think you would find some answers by
investigating LilyPond's definition of "music object" further; it sounds
like you're being tripped up by that.

- Nikolai

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 15:07 Pierre Perol-Schneider <
address@hidden wrote:

> What I mean is that the manual does not says "music object".
> What I mean is that "\tweak color #red \parenthesize c' " has the same
> output than "\parenthesize \tweak color #red c'" -- weired to me.
> What I mean is that in "c'-\tweak color #red -1",  #1 is not a musical
> object according to my eyes, it is a music function setting the fingering
> property on the music
> object.
> So, another basic question: is there any technical limit so that \tweak
> could be applied to \parenthesized ?
>
>
> Le mar. 29 janv. 2019 à 20:33, David Kastrup <address@hidden> a écrit :
>
> > Pierre Perol-Schneider <address@hidden> writes:
> >
> > >> Le mar. 29 janv. 2019 à 17:57, David Kastrup <address@hidden> a écrit:
> > >>
> > >>> Pierre Perol-Schneider <address@hidden> writes:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hi Bug Squad,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > %% Snippet:
> > >>> > \version "2.19.82"
> > >>> > {
> > >>> >   \tweak color #red \parenthesize c'
> > >>> >   %vs:
> > >>> >   \tweak ParenthesesItem.color #red \parenthesize c'
> > >>> > }
> > >>> > %%
> > >>>
> > >>> So?  The color also does not affect Stem, LedgerLine or Flag by
> > >>> default.  Why should it affect the parentheses?
> > >>
> > >
> > > So? Basically the manual says: " The \tweak command applies to the
> music
> > > object that immediately follows value in the music stream."
> > > Considering your answer, do you mean that " \tweak color #red
> > \parenthesize"
> > > does not follow the value?
> >
> > It doesn't.  It precedes the value which is c' .
> >
> > > Do you mean that parenthizes are no object?
> >
> > The music object is the c' .  It is parenthesized, sure.  But it also is
> > stemmed.  The parenthesization is not a music object of its own, it is a
> > music function setting the parenthesize property on the following music
> > object.  Which results in the following music object additionally
> > creating a ParenthesizeItem (or whatever it was called).
> >
> > > I've already asked myself about that before sending the bug report.
> > > Your answer does not make any clarification, sorry.
> >
> > --
> > David Kastrup
> >
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