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Re: Built make-3.80rc1 on Cygwin - brief


From: Soren A
Subject: Re: Built make-3.80rc1 on Cygwin - brief
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:05:17 +0000 (UTC)
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"Paul D. Smith" <address@hidden> wrote in 
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> I encourage anyone who has the time and energy to put into improving the
> test suite to do so.  Please let me know so we can discuss it.

Thanks for the reply and the invitation. Alas right now I personally
must offer only a brief and non-committal 'ok, I'll get back to you on
this'. 
 
> On a final note, all support of non-UNIX systems is performed by
> volunteers; I don't have a single Windows system that I can even test
> builds on to be sure they work.  That includes support for the test
> suite.

I assumed as much. I certainly understand that you don't maintain a
Windows system and I have tried to contribute to other Open / Free
software projects in the past, wherein the same was true of primary
maintainers of those projects (libPNG for instance). I want to
contribute in this regard to 'make' as well, and I hope to be able to do
so in a way which turns out to be useful and not too annoying ;-). 

> Furthermore, note that the Cygwin codebase comes with its own version of
> GNU make, which is not the same one that is distributed by the FSF; it
> has some modifications made by Cygwin.  I believe all parties would like
> to see this difference resolved and whatever appropriate changes are
> made to the Cygwin version, merged into the mainline FSF version.  But,
> that requires some work no one has undertaken yet.

I thought so on this too; and also the fork of Cygwin named 'msys' (for
the MinGW win32 development system) has got it's own 'make'
modifications, and separately the MinGW project also has its own
modifications. That's basically 3 branchings of 'make' on the
development platforms I am interested in. It's a bit of a confused
situation and, yes, wisdom as I (minimally) understand it would prefer
to see this not worsen but instead get improved by re-merging those
branches back into the mainline FSF sources. 

> I encourage you to submit the bug fixes you needed to apply so others
> can benefit from those changes.

I'll do my best. I am being a bit hampered by hesitation right now
(happens to me from time to time: losing confidence in my ability to
conform to all the elaborate protocols for submitting bug reports so
that they'll be found acceptable and productive for others). Part of the
problem is that my work has generated a whole slew of issues needing to
be addressed, that seem to fall into distinctly divergent areas: some of
the more pressing are build-configuration bug issues, others are
directly concerning source code. Some of course straddle both areas.
Then there are the test suite issues. 

I was slightly concerned that having more than just a couple of clearly
delineated bugs to report at one time might cause my attempts to appear
chaotic (and thus be ignored). As long as I know (now) that you are
aware of the scope of what I've looked at and am trying to help with /
accomplish, I feel more sanguine about trying. 

  Thank You,
     Soren Andersen






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