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Re: imbrications and ---


From: Akim Demaille
Subject: Re: imbrications and ---
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:52:44 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux)

 >> I still see no reason to fall down to just the smallest possible set
 >> of features.  If some outputs have less flexibility than others, then
 >> be it.

 > What do you mean ``so be it''?

"Let poor formats be poor formats", not "let rich formats be as poor
as the poorest we have to address".

 > If the author has no idea and no control on how the output will
 > look in certain formats, what good is Texinfo for??

Your sentence seems to imply that "experts" just have to accept that
Texinfo be designed for novices.  I don't agree.  Cutting the guts of
Texinfo is Fisher-Prizing it.  But that's contrary to its niche.


 >> I use Texinfo because the type setting is nice, thanks to TeX.  If you
 >> remove that interest, you remove an important feature of Texinfo itself.
 >> Heck, it's even in its name!

 > You can always use @iftex, you know.

Yeah, right, I can always work around even harder.  Like I had not
spent enough time with @if and bug reports :(


 > Texinfo doesn't let you use the full power of TeX; it was never its
 > goal nor in its design.

I don't ask for the full power, I ask for the full aesthetics with a
reasonable (implementation) investment.



 > But that's all academic.  If you can show a practical suggestion (what
 > to produce in each supported format), 

No!  That's precisely where we disagree.  You keep on talking about
intersection of features, I don't.

For a start revert the latest changes: restore small caps.  As I said,

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or else, have @acronym warn the user that it is no longer what it used
to be, and is now a nop.  _Now_, indeed,

 > [If] the author has no idea and no control on how the output will
 > look in certain formats, what good is Texinfo for??

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